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They are picking and choosing which MARRIAGES they will provide cakes for, and which customers they will provide cakes for. HL can not pick and choose which employees they will provide BC for.
If a couple want a generic, sexually neutral wedding cake, then any cake maker should be obligated to provide it. For example:
It's the business of customizing the cake to be obviously homosexual that's the problem. They don't have the right to force a cake decorator to do that. The happy couple might just have to find somebody else to write on their cake. They can buy a two groom cake topper and put it on themselves. Or they can find a cake maker that is willing to do all of that for them.
I have faith but yet, when a very attractive woman walks by I think things I doubt would be approved. Is it your position that there are people that never, ever engage in sinful acts? Never boast, never think impure thoughts, never gossip, are never gluttonous? Are never jealous, are never deceitful?
Why not refuse to make a cake for the overweight couple?
That is not the role for the government to play though. Would the baker make a cake for a prospective groom that walked in and noted "boy, did you see that lady that just walked past"?
Trying to trivialize the harm by drawing the parallels that you do is disingenuous. The case of the cake is a whole different matter. To a Christian, gay weddings are a celebration of lust and sinfulness. They elevate what God has called abominable behavior to a public spectacle. When a Christian is called upon to commemorate this display with his work, a cake or song or his skillful photography, he is a participant in the ritual. This is offensive to his faith and being forced to do so by the government is viewed as denial of his religious liberty.
They are picking and choosing which religious tenets they will honor and which they won't. Which makes this a thinly veiled protest against same sex marriage and not a religious freedom fight.
SCOTUS didn't rule that way in the HL case. So, you have no point.
And that's exactly what it is: a fight to preserve everyone's First Amendment rights.
Trying to trivialize the harm by drawing the parallels that you do is disingenuous. The case of the cake is a whole different matter. To a Christian, gay weddings are a celebration of lust and sinfulness.
I've said it's not the place of the government to force them to make one.
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They elevate what God has called abominable behavior to a public spectacle. When a Christian is called upon to commemorate this display with his work, a cake or song or his skillful photography, he is a participant in the ritual. This is offensive to his faith and being forced to do so by the government is viewed as denial of his religious liberty.
That doesn't really address my questions. For the sake of the argument, homosexuality is no bigger of a sin than gluttony.
Trying to trivialize the harm by drawing the parallels that you do is disingenuous. The case of the cake is a whole different matter. To a Christian, gay weddings are a celebration of lust and sinfulness. They elevate what God has called abominable behavior to a public spectacle. When a Christian is called upon to commemorate this display with his work, a cake or song or his skillful photography, he is a participant in the ritual. This is offensive to his faith and being forced to do so by the government is viewed as denial of his religious liberty.
then get out of a business that is service related to the general public. if some christians don't want to celebrate lust and sinfulness they should ask straight couples if they engage in sexual sin, adultery and the like before they do business with them.
hothulamaui" if some christians don't want to celebrate lust and sinfulness they should ask straight couples if they engage in sexual sin, adultery and the like before they do business with them."
Perhaps issue a mandatory questionnaire to all couples regarding what they have already done sexually, before actually getting married, listing all partners. (sar)
Trying to trivialize the harm by drawing the parallels that you do is disingenuous. The case of the cake is a whole different matter. To a Christian, gay weddings are a celebration of lust and sinfulness. They elevate what God has called abominable behavior to a public spectacle. When a Christian is called upon to commemorate this display with his work, a cake or song or his skillful photography, he is a participant in the ritual. This is offensive to his faith and being forced to do so by the government is viewed as denial of his religious liberty.
No it isn't. That's why you guys keep losing. You seem to think "I'm a bigot because Jesus" constitutes practicing Christianity. It doesn't. You'll just have to learn to live with the fact that waving a bible around and believing in magic does not put you above the law.
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