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View Poll Results: Do you agree that "Black racists don't matter"?
No, I don't agree 50 86.21%
Yes, I agree 8 13.79%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-07-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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In a thread earlier today someone posted the following statements.

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Why? Black millenials being "racist" is irrelevant. They don't have wealth or political power. We've been over this before. Black racists don't matter.

No, it doesn't. Most white people don't have sufficient experiences among blacks to form an actual "observation." Their observations come from parent conditioning, growing up in sheltered, segregated neighborhoods, and negative stereotypes about blacks fed in the media. I can't tell you how many white people I met in college who I was one of the first black men they met personally and had a real conversation with.
Do you agree with this statement? Do you believe that "black racists don't matter?"
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm hung up on what the word 'matter' means in this context.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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I'm hung up on what the word 'matter' means in this context.
Check the original post out, I linked it.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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In a thread earlier today someone posted the following statements.

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Do you agree with this statement? Do you believe that "black racists don't matter?"


It's a fairly new phenomena to equate "racism" with "power."

However, nowhere is the definition of "racism" in anyway dependent on its relationship with power. Only in self-perpetuating academic circles.



All racism matters, if you actually do care about racism.




If you don't actually care about ending racism or having a more civil society, and instead only care about power dynamics, then I guess "black racism doesn't matter."
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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All racists don't matter.

...I have long grown comfortable with the fact that people in general are bigots, and it's pointless to worry about what they think.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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If you don't actually care about ending racism or having a more civil society, and instead only care about power dynamics, then I guess "black racism doesn't matter."
that's really the key right there. and exactly why the poster quoted insists that it doesn't matter
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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It's a fairly new phenomena to equate "racism" with "power."

However, nowhere is the definition of "racism" in anyway dependent on its relationship with power. Only in self-perpetuating academic circles.



All racism matters, if you actually do care about racism.




If you don't actually care about ending racism or having a more civil society, and instead only care about power dynamics, then I guess "black racism doesn't matter."
"It's a fairly new phenomena to equate "racism" with "power."

"However, nowhere is the definition of "racism" in anyway dependent on its relationship with power. Only in self-perpetuating academic circles."

I'll stick with the dictionary's definition. Those supporting the above definition are apparently too lazy to come up with their own terminology.

Racism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
1) a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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To answer that you would need to be able to agree on who the racists are? Some think Al Sharpton is a racist, if so, he matters in that he is able to wield power to damage people or get large sums of money. Some think Eric Holder is racist, and if so, as a top law enforcment person in the country, he certainly matters. Others would say neither of them are racists and then you have no discussion about whether they matter as racists. Does one racist on the street matter? Maybe not in the large scheme of things, but he certainly matters to the person he assaults due to skin color. To have such a conversation, there has to be common parameters around racism and what it means to matter and those are both never-ending discussions.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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I would use the term benign vs malignant racism. I think black “racism” is benign in impact upon the white population as a collective. On the other hand, white racism is a malignancy to the black collective economically and psychologically, if not physically. If you look at the condition of blacks the world over, we are just not in a position to be a danger to the white population. On the other hand, the white population and culture has been and is an existential threat to not only the black population, but itself, through biological warfare, nuclear warfare in addition to a long histories of theories concerning world over population, eugenics and a belief that blond hair blue eyed people are some sort of master race.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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I would use the term benign vs malignant racism. I think black “racism” is benign in impact upon the white population as a collective. On the other hand, white racism is a malignancy to the black collective economically and psychologically, if not physically.
Then almost all racism is "benign" because it's not legally institutionalized anymore. I fail to see how a low-class white racist from Chitlin' Switch county Georgia has any power over me whatsoever.

Too much time is wasted running after "racists". I ask people all the time, "why do you value their opinion?"
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