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Old 04-21-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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No problem. Those services have never been on FM channels.
That would be the point of moving exclusively to digital broadcasts. You free up bandwidth for other services. The frequencies previously used for analog TV are now occupied by cell and other services, that was only possible by consolidating OTA TV into a much narrower range of frequencies using digital transmissions.

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Old 04-21-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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That would be the point of moving exclusively to digital broadcasts. You free up bandwidth for other services. The frequencies previously used for analog TV are now occupied by cell and other services, that was only possible by consolidating OTA TV into a much narrower range of frequencies using digital transmissions.
Which will further compress the signal further eroding the quality. We simply do not need 5000 stations of anything.
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Which will further compress the signal further eroding the quality.

There is no compromise in quality, I don't know what the exact number is but it's something like 4 or 5 broadcasts of Bluray quality HD over the same frequency occupied by one analog channel. The different frequencies can be spaced closer together compared to analog without interfering with each other.

Bluray is typically about 25Mbps, the HD from your cable company is probably about 6 to 8Mbps at best. This may come as surprise to many but the quality of OTA channels are superior to cable becsue they don't have the same bandwidth limitations.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:10 PM
 
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I'm not sure why my positions have to be confirmed in a way where you act like you aren't.
Short term recall failing? What you said was...

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Because digital OTA TV is almost non existent around here. Digital TV doesn't travel as well as analog.
Which is false by a factor close to 10.

Your local TV stations may have screwed up but that no way effect the fact Digital has far more range for a give set of conditions.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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That would be the point of moving exclusively to digital broadcasts. You free up bandwidth for other services. The frequencies previously used for analog TV are now occupied by cell and other services, that was only possible by consolidating OTA TV into a much narrower range of frequencies using digital transmissions.
But only UHF channels 52 to 83 were reallocated.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Short term recall failing? What you said was...



Which is false by a factor close to 10.

Your local TV stations may have screwed up but that no way effect the fact Digital has far more range for a give set of conditions.
I call total baloney on that. If you had been getting very snowy out of town analog TV stations, you now likely can't get anything at all from them now that they have changed to all digital. So I'm not about to swallow the notion that digital TV stations get out much further. At best they get out with steady reception at about the same distance as analog stations once did with decent reception with little or no snow.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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But only UHF channels 52 to 83 were reallocated.
There is another massive reallocation under way for next year. Local TV stations supposed to transfer 100 megacycles of bandwidth to the phone systems.

Not known what is actually going to happen...well over 80 billion may change hands...or nothing may happen vif the TV stations decide not to sell..
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Short term recall failing? What you said was...



Which is false by a factor close to 10.

Your local TV stations may have screwed up but that no way effect the fact Digital has far more range for a give set of conditions.
Digital doesn't travel as well as analog. Fact. If you want to set the conditions as perfect it's a worthless discussion as things never are.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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But only UHF channels 52 to 83 were reallocated.
How much can be reallocated with radio which requires minimal bandwidth? If they took a different approach than what they did with TV and broadcast different radio stations on the same frequency.... just a wild guess but it has to be something like at least a hundred channels on the same frequency.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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Digital doesn't travel as well as analog. Fact.
I don't see how either could make a difference assuming the same transmission power. The big difference is poor reception on analog doesn't necessarily mean you lose the whole transmission. A snowy picture is just as unwatchable as no TV as far as I'm concerned.
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