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Originally Posted by Tall Traveler
There are plenty of countries such as France & Spain getting better health results at 1/3 the cost of what we have in the USA...we can model off of their systems. The problem is that too many people are getting rich under the current system...they will have to adjust for the benefit of the group for us to get it right.
The other thing is taking personal responsibility for keeping fit and not eating yourself to obesity.
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think again
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The Poor Get the Worst Health Care.
Translated Monday 29 October 2007, by Gene Zbikowski
An edifying INSEE study confirms that the poorest households suffer discrimination in access to health care, following a study on health care conducted
The least one can say is that the INSEE study entitled “The Health of the Very Poor,†which was published yesterday, comes at just the right moment. Right in the middle of the debate on the social security budget bill in the French National Assembly, right in the middle of the battle against medical co-payments, the day after the demonstration by medical students, the health care study conducted between 2002-2003 with a sample of 40,000 people confirms the discrimination in health care access suffered by the poorest French households.
A Greater Proportion Go to the Hospital.
The French poor and their children do not go to see the family doctor very often, and they see specialists even less. Some 21% of the under-50s did not see the doctor, as against 17% of that age group in the rest of the population. And even when they do go to the doctor, “it’s often when the condition is already serious,†noted Thibaut de Saint Pol, an INSEE sociologist. A disproportionate proportion of the most fragile households also go to the hospital. About 19% of them had been hospitalized in the year preceding the study, against 16% for the rest of the population. As concerns specific conditions, tooth decay is at the head of the list. Among the poor, 11% suffer from tooth decay against 6% of the rest of the population. The same goes for poor French children: they are less likely to benefit from orthodontic care (6% against 10% for other children) and they also suffer more from tooth decay, 6% against 2%. These children are also more likely to be asthmatic, 6% against 4%. The poor also suffer more from rheumatism, varicose veins, osteo-articulatory
The Poor Get the Worst Health Care. - L'Humanité in English
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french UHC....going bankrupt
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The French health care system is going bankrupt. The public insurance fund has been in deficit every year since 1986
in France you basically get it from a private doctor, clinic or hospital. They compete for business, so they have a strong incentive to provide good care.
You then pay them, but are partly reimbursed by the government, by about 75%. The rest of the money either comes out of your pocket, or your own private medical insurance.
Over 80% of French people have private health insurance to cover this top-up.
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german UHC...going bankrupt:
PUBLIC GERMAN acute hospitals face bankruptcy
Some German acute hospitals face bankruptcy in 2009, warns Hermann Thiel, at German healthcare property consultancy Terranus.de. Other reports suggest that a third of all publicly owned hospitals will go out of business over the next few years.
Thiel says that the going will get tough as the changes to the system of reimbursements enters its final phase. He predicts that the financial squeeze is likely to lead to more acute hospitals being taken over by private operators. The changes mean that hospitals have had to introduce DRG and can not simply increase their debts.
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demand for private health insurance in Germany is growing, alone in 2004 around 400.000 Germans have chosen one of the private coverage schemes. Between 2002 and 2003, about 300.000 of statutory insured persons have taken out outpatient supplementary private insurance, while in the same period, around 242.000 have taken out optional hospital benefits. We argue that perceived quality of private and public health care, insurance premiums and income are among the determinants of this growing demand. This study is the first in Germany that moves from theoretical to empirical framework. It uses economic modelling to analyze the effects of these determinants on the probability of purchasing private health insurance. Economic modelling states, demand for private health insurance is demand for high health care quality. The model was developed taking into consideration the unobserved endogeneity and heterogeneity. Results support the hypothesis that the demand for private health insurance is driven by the quality gap between both insurance sectors.
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greek UHC.....going bankrupt
british healthcare.....severe cutbacks, on the verge of failing
canadian UHCis even starting to....PRIVITIZE....
In Canada, a move toward a private healthcare option - latimes
swiss health care......Swiss health care is predominantly private. Individuals are required to buy insurance and almost all of them do. Private companies compete to provide insurance, and there are subsidies for lower income buyers. The insurance is individually owned, personal and portable.
Despite competition, choice, private ownership and portability, the Swiss system is still very bureaucratic – perhaps as much as or more so than our own. It has mandated benefits, price controls on providers and other regulations that make it hard for entrepreneurs to solve problems.
swedish health care....For decades, Sweden has been the global bastion of socialized health care. In many ways, it still is. But as countries the world over struggle with rapidly changing technologies, spiking medical costs, rising demands for service with noncorresponding appetites for increased fees or taxation, Sweden is increasingly turning to the private sector to reduce the burden on a health care system at risk of being crushed under its own weight.
"Many of the developments in the last 15 years have been about going from a government-funded system to a more open system that includes the private sector," says Dr. Birger Forsberg, a professor of international health at the Karolinksa Institute medical school who also advises Stockholm on health care policies.
The Scandanavian model of a welfare state built on high taxation is known the world over. In fact, Sweden's success at adopting a public–private hybrid was cited by the Supreme Court of Canada in its 2005 decision to strike down prohibitions against private health care insurance in Quebec, saying that countries such as Sweden and Germany, that allow private insurance, have successfully delivered medical services that are superior to and more affordable than services available in Canada.
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