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Old 05-02-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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It looks like the white cops are charged with arresting Gray while the black cops are charged with not taking him to a hospital. Something smells fish here. I think that the prosecutor brought these charge under duress.
Whatever. As long as the justice system is handling this in the full light of day, the proper conclusions are likely to be reached. What would be tragic is if they were just turned over to the leftist lynch mob to have their way with them, facts be damned.

The charges may have been somewhat politically motivated, but now this will go to court, where all the protections of the law will be provided to the cops. This appears to be proceeding in an acceptable if somewhat imperfect fashion.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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No, it demarcates the line of culpability and responsibility.
So why don't you just come out and say that you don't care about the presumption of innocence?

Apparently there are those on the left who are more interested in a sacrifice on the alter of social justice than determination of guilt or innocence.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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Whatever. As long as the justice system is handling this in the full light of day, the proper conclusions are likely to be reached. What would be tragic is if they were just turned over to the leftist lynch mob to have their way with them, facts be damned.

The charges may have been somewhat politically motivated, but now this will go to court, where all the protections of the law will be provided to the cops. This appears to be proceeding in an acceptable if somewhat imperfect fashion.
I think you mean, "what would be tragic is if an arrested person were just left to the police lynch mob to have their way with him/her, facts or due process be damned!"
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Where did you find that?
When you make the mental effort to connect the charges with the cops actual actions a rational person will conclude that the white cops were charged for arresting Mr. Gray while the black cops were charged with not taking him to a hospital. It isn't complicated.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Evidence and trial be damned eh? Not guilty until proven innocent like the low lifes they deal with on a daily basis?
Actually, according to the mobs they are guilty even if proven innocent. Mobs need no facts to riot, it is recreation for them.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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So why don't you just come out and say that you don't care about the presumption of innocence?

Apparently there are those on the left who are more interested in a sacrifice on the alter of social justice than determination of guilt or innocence.
It is strong circumstantial evidence that is admissible in a court of law and enough to prove culpability.

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Rather than directly proving a defendant's negligence, circumstantial evidence allows judges and juries to infer negligence based on the totality of the circumstances and the shared knowledge that arises out of human experience.
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Res ipsa loquitur is a Latin phrase that means "the thing speaks for itself". In personal injury law, the concept of res ipsa loquitur (or just "res ipsa" for short) operates as an evidentiary rule that allows plaintiffs to establish a rebuttable presumption of negligence on the part of the defendant through the use of circumstantial evidence. This means that while plantiffs typically have to prove that the defendant acted with a negligent state of mind, through res ipsa loquitur, if the plaintiff puts forth certain circumstantial facts, it becomes the defendant's burden to prove he or she was not negligent.
- See more at: Res Ipsa Loquitur - FindLaw
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:50 AM
 
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When you make the mental effort to connect the charges with the cops actual actions a rational person will conclude that the white cops were charged for arresting Mr. Gray while the black cops were charged with not taking him to a hospital. It isn't complicated.
Those were not the charges.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Back in the days of slavery, black overseers whipped black slaves just as eagerly as white overseers, that didn't change the racist nature of the enterprise.
Are we living in the age of slavery? Yet every perceived injustice is somehow, when related to blacks, caused by slavery. Especially in mob thought.

Time to grow up and accept personal responsibility for our actions and their outcome.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:53 AM
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Default 3 Baltimore Cops Charged Were African-Americans

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Cops Charged:



This is evidence that the arrest was not racial motivated.
Well, that just disrupts the liberal narrative, doesn't it?

If one does the crime, then one does the time.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:54 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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The same conservatives who mention that three cops are black are the same conservatives who think racism ended in 2008 when Pres. Obama was elected to the White House.
You might want to look that one up. It appears to be another one of your opinions that you present as fact. It is not.
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