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Old 05-24-2015, 12:32 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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The azzhats running things don't know wtf they are doing. It's the same here in Ca.... they tell us to cut back on water usage, and people are, and now the water companies are starting to put higher taxes in to compensate for that...

They get their money out of you somehow... that's the bottom line.
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Old 05-24-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Who should pay for roads if not the people who use them?
A good point! BUT where is the rest of Oregon's tax monies being spent? On what? On who? THAT'S the question.

Plus, there's the Mexicans that work only for cash. Coloureds brought in by libs to swell the welfare rolls and prop up Democrat votes.

Nothing is simple these days.
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Old 05-24-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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A good point!

But where is the rest of Oregon's tax monies being spent? On what? On who? THAT'S the question.
I heard that Oregon is single mom welfare capital of the US..... I've just heard this anecdotally haven't done any kind of research personally....

Maybe that's where the money is going... IDK...
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Johnson Creek,WI
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I live about halfway between Madison and Milwaukee. Many of our residents work in either place,and drive 30-40 miles one way to work. A mileage tax would be a major burden here.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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How do you compare all about all those drivers who live in the urban city areas and drive only a few miles each way around town but drive more often and thus add up far more miles each month than those in the rural areas that drive less often? A city dweller can add up more miles driven than that of a small rural town dweller.

The size of the vehicle is important but also the amount of traffic and congestion that needs to be considered when cities have to widen roads, add more lanes to freeways, place traffic control devices on streets – just because of too much traffic. Shouldn’t they pay more if they live in the city?

If you never drive a mile no matter where you live you are using the highways and streets for your personal needs. You buy food and dry goods that are shipped into the nearby stores around you, then you need those roads. If you need services for your health or for your home, people drive to your location to help you with your needs. You should help pay for those roads as well even though you personally don’t drive or own a car.

The highways are part of the infrastructure or commons that everyone needs and everyone should pay for them and share the cost of improving and maintaining.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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I pay more that enough to maintain the roads if politicians would quit wasting it.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The state apparently wants rural white people to move into inner city Portland. I thought gentrification was supposed to be a bad thing.
Rural living is very inefficient in our modern times, we subsidize rural folks quite a bit.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:52 PM
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I live about halfway between Madison and Milwaukee. Many of our residents work in either place,and drive 30-40 miles one way to work. A mileage tax would be a major burden here.
A major burden? Why? They'd pay the mileage tax instead of the current gas tax.

At Oregon rates, that 40 mile one way commute would cost someone getting average fuel economy a whopping $4/month extra. Hardly a major burden.
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Old 05-24-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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A major burden? Why? They'd pay the mileage tax instead of the current gas tax.

At Oregon rates, that 40 mile one way commute would cost someone getting average fuel economy a whopping $4/month extra. Hardly a major burden.
And even less for the guy in the SUV getting 16mpg because after all that's what we should be encouraging right?
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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A major burden? Why? They'd pay the mileage tax instead of the current gas tax.

At Oregon rates, that 40 mile one way commute would cost someone getting average fuel economy a whopping $4/month extra. Hardly a major burden.
Seattle liberals think $5 / month increase in car tab fees is such a major burden they're giving low income people a refund. And as usual for government they're spending $37 to give people a $20 refund.
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