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Old 05-28-2015, 04:39 PM
 
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It's the political class and their belief that they are above the law. They are law makers with the "do as we say, not as we do" mindset.
Its pretty much any class with power and no checks
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Austin
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It's the political class and their belief that they are above the law. They are law makers with the "do as we say, not as we do" mindset.
Ain't it the truth.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I've said before that I don't think Illinois pols are any more crooked than pols from any other state, but boy, do they get caught a lot more (seemingly).


Ex-House Speaker Hastert charged with evading currency rules and lying to FBI - Chicago Tribune
We had the distinction of having 2 former Governors in Federal Prison at the same time. One was a Democrat and the other a Republican.

I used to think Illinois had the most corrupt government in the US. I was surprised to learn that that distinction belongs to Louisiana, based on the number of convictions. It made me rethink the whole thing.

Maybe it's more crooks.
Maybe it's more crooks who get caught.
Maybe it's more prosecution.
Maybe it's more convictions.

Maybe the state with the least convictions has

Fewer crooks, or
Smarter crooks, or
Less prosecution, or
Greater failure to achieve conviction.

Only thing certain is that politics tends to attract more than its fair share of crooks.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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As a kid growing up in IL, one of my first memories of political stuff was Sec'y of State Paul Powell, who died in his suite at a hotel where I delivered newspapers. They found $800,000 cash in his closet. That was 1970, so in today's dollars it would be about $4.9 million cash.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...,9210803&hl=en

This just the way things are done in Illinois.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:16 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I think every state is similarly full of crooked pols, I just think the Illinois guys are too brazen about it and get caught.
This is a federal case, so it doesnt really play into what im about to say, but in the overall discussion of must corrupt state, Illinois may be in the spotlight simply because they have stricter laws.

Ranking The States From Most To Least Corrupt | FiveThirtyEight
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hey Bill, we`re being investigated again.
Sorry--what does this have to do with Dennis Hastert? Oh wait, I get it. When Republicans screw up, try to divert with the Clintons and maybe someone will fall for it. Too funny.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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Martha Stewart went to prison for far less. I'll bet he doesn't go.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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He was a school teacher and wrestling coach in Yorkville, Ill until 1981, he paid someone in that city $1.7M over the years for an undisclosed reason. He was a lobbyist since leaving the house and evidently he exceeded the $10K withdrawal red flag threshold many times. Doesn't sound promising.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/us...rges.html?_r=0
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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He was a lobbyist since leaving the house

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/us...rges.html?_r=0
Surprise, surprise...
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:55 PM
 
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I'm not one to butt in on ones personal business but for that much money one has to wonder what he was trying to hide.
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