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Old 06-18-2015, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Now wait a sec.... didn't Jeb just say that Climate Change should be solved by Politics?

 
Old 06-18-2015, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Now wait a sec.... didn't Jeb just say that Climate Change should be solved by Politics?
He did. And Jeb proposes to solve the issue the same way as every Republican running for President: pretend that it does not exist.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 05:42 AM
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pretend that it does not exist.
It doesnt..
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Memo to the pope: poverty's been around since the beginning of time.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:18 AM
 
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CO2 is a significant greenhouse gas that absorbs and re-radiates in the infrared spectrum and plays a main role inthe 'greenhouse' effect (and more recently an enhanced greenhouse effect.) This has been known for over 100 years. It's basic atmospheric radiative physics. The same radiative physics used by the airforce in developing accurate heat-seeking missiles in the 1950's. The absorption/radiative capacity of CO2 in the atmosphere was first empirically tested many years ago.

- Humans have been pumping gigatons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (and other greenhouse gases)

- The average global temperature has increased by about 0.8C since 1880.

- CO2 levels have not been as high as 400ppm since about 15 to 20 million years ago during the mid-Miocene. During the interglacial periods of the past 800,000 years, the CO2 never rose above 280 ppm according to ice-core studies. CO2 started to rise with the industrial age. The average global temperature of the planet is now starting to be warmer than most of the time humans have even existed.


- The sun's output has not changed enough in the last 50 years to have caused the increase in global warming in the last 50 years -in fact it's decreased slightly.

- Cosmic rays, if they play any part at all in seeding clouds (speculative) don't match the historical paleoclimate temperature records or instrumental temperature records at all.

- Orbital forcing is too long term (eccentricity is about 100,000k cycles, obliquity is around 42000k cycles and precession about 26,000k) Currently where the earth is at in the Milankovitch cycles, the global temperature should be decreasing not increasing.

- The stratosphere is also cooling, which is a classic sign of how the greenhouse effect works and evidence against solar irradiation causing the additional warming (it would be warming if the sun was the cause of the additional warming).

- O2 in the atmosphere is decreasing due to increased CO2.

- The ratio of C13/C12 in CO2 is also decreasing which is evidence that the additional CO2 is from fossil fuels, not from the biosphere/oceans

- PH levels in the Oceans are changing and becoming more acidic as they are taking in more CO2.

- The Ocean Heat Content has been steadily increasing.

- The Arctic is warming twice as fast as the rest of the globe. Arctic sea-ice has been on a declining trend.

- Long term Shelf ice in Western Antarctica is rapidly breaking up.

- Migration patterns are changing for a range of species

And that's only some of the highlights.

Just read the science Journals: There are 10000s of research articles about the evidence for anthropogenic climate change and 1000s of scientists from a range of different fields involved all over the world in Universities and private research facilities as well as government funded research.

How can any rational person seriously believe this is some kind of a political 'hoax'? It would have to be a massive complex worldwide conspiracy with everyone involved keeping silent for the past 50 years. Everyone would have to be corrupt. All the evidence would have to be faked. And the laws of physics would have had to be faked as well. Is that sort of thinking rational? No
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:28 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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This pope is an idiot. The Catholics should be calling for his resignation.
Indeed they should.

And, like his brethren on the left, he has turned reality upside down on this phoney "issue". For it is the measures that they push to "fight climate change" that hit the poor the hardest and stifle development in poor third-world nations.

Our harnessing of fossil fuels has dwarfed all other factors in improving human living standards across the globe for a hundred years. And yet the left continues to attack it while ignoring the laughter in response of all with an IQ of 100+.

By far, they have done more to hurt the poor than any other group. And "climate change" nonsense just piles on.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:41 AM
 
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Here's the official English translation of the Pope's Encyclical:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/fra...dato-si_en.pdf
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Pope Francis seems to have a problem. It appears that he has a problem with Capitalism and Freedom while he embraces Socialism.

First, Socialism has resulted in more Government sanctioned death by war, murder, and starvation. Pollution has also been worse in the Socialist world.

Second, Capitalism and freedom have lifted more people out of poverty than any other system tried. Free capitalist countries do more for the poor and the environment than all the other countries combined.

I would suggect that if the Pope wants to get into US politics, he should check out the facts before commenting. We have transfered Trillions of dollars in a 60-plus year wealth redistribution scheme called the "War on Poverty." Considering the current situation I conclude it hasn't and never will work.

What will work is an ethic of faith, hard work, and education. People should understand that faith, hard work, and smart work are the way to a better life. An integral part of smart is to understand that education is a never ending process. If you want a better life you must never stop learning and improving yourself.

During my entire 36 years in the workforce there is not one year that I was not in school and doing my best to learn new things. After I learned what was expected of me, I made a habit of learning and doing what made my boss' job easier, and then I looked into what I could do to make things easier for her boss. I moved steadily up to the highest position possible.

I read a book that claimed you can save 10% no matter what you make and began saving. Then in my spare time I learned how to invest what I saved. You can only work so many hours per day, your money can work 24/7/365. I retired at 54. Think you can't succeed? I recently read and recommend "The Wealth Choice" "Success Secrets of Black Millionaires" by Dennis Kimbro.

I have no problem with giving someone a hand-up, but, all a hand-out does is create a dependent. I do my best to not contribute to pollution. I have a major problem with funnelling more money to the "Climate Change" fraud cartel. It has been debunked several times. Lets pursue good policies for Humans and Earth and stop paying the fraudsters that are in it for wealth and power over us.

I find it amazing that with the current plight of Christians all over the world, being murdered, displaced, our ancient places being destroyed and what concerns Pope Francis, "Climate Change". Give me a break. "Climate Change" is about transfering wealth. The "War on Christianity" is murdering your flock. It would seem to me that saving the Flock would be the priority. Pope Francis, I appeal to you as a major leader of the Christian world, Save the Flock.

I am not Catholic but I am Christian. We need a leader that is intent on saving Christians and Christianity. There are already enough false prophets in the "Climate Change" fraud. I ask You, Pope Francis, to lead Christianity. Tolerance should not mean extinction. Do Something to stop the murdering of Christians and the destruction of their holy places. Are you going to stand by while Christians are murdered? Forget your "Climate Change" tour and instead rally the Christian world to demand an end to their own death and destruction at the hands of radical muslims.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:57 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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He got it pretty right, although his church is also to blame because it is partly responsible for the overpopulation in some countries like the Philippines. The fact that he is hated so much only shows that he keeps hitting nerves...
 
Old 06-18-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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he is way off about the free market.


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He got it pretty right, although his church is also to blame because it is partly responsible for the overpopulation in some countries like the Philippines. The fact that he is hated so much only shows that he keeps hitting nerves...
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