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Why is it a bad thing that we can prevent more diseases now than we could in the past?
Puzzling, isn't it? Fortunately, the majority of parents prefer that their children not get preventable diseases.
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Originally Posted by Jo48
Being shot with up dozens and dozens of chemicals, not including scripts, from cradle to grave? You know what this makes me think of? Zombie Nation.
Look up the lyrics of that old song, "In the Year 2525". Getting closer. So, you think this concept is wonderful? Personally, I think you are messing with humanity.
Do you ever wonder what science will say in the future over what is being done today? Of course, science never changes their minds.
Vaccines have been around a long time. In the future we will probably be able to prevent even more infectious diseases. They're working on new vaccines as we speak. We are nearing world wide eradication of polio. When it is accomplished, we will no longer need to vaccinate anyone for polio. Measles and hepatitis B are also potentially eradicable.
Puzzling, isn't it? Fortunately, the majority of parents prefer that their children not get preventable diseases.
Vaccines have been around a long time. In the future we will probably be able to prevent even more infectious diseases. They're working on new vaccines as we speak. We are nearing world wide eradication of polio. When it is accomplished, we will no longer need to vaccinate anyone for polio. Measles and hepatitis B are also potentially eradicable.
Vaccines have contained impurities like SV40 and leukemia and other virus contamination for a long time--yielding an uncomfortable number of the cancers that you're walking for cures for today. Swine flu vaxxes have been removed from market because they effed people up. Gardasil is filling cemeteries and wheelchairs.
Hep B vax, which is reported to have caused blindness, Guillain-Barre, liver damage, is being recommended for newborns:
"The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) recommends that all children receive their first dose of Hepatitis B vaccine at birth and complete the vaccine series by age 6–18 months."
You, along with so many other socialists, are a shallow technocrat who thinks everybody's body type is the same, and that the individual has no right to refuse invasive procedures on her temple in the name of public health.
Puzzling, isn't it? Fortunately, the majority of parents prefer that their children not get preventable diseases.
Vaccines have been around a long time. In the future we will probably be able to prevent even more infectious diseases. They're working on new vaccines as we speak. We are nearing world wide eradication of polio. When it is accomplished, we will no longer need to vaccinate anyone for polio. Measles and hepatitis B are also potentially eradicable.
Oh Please. That is pure propaganda. Let's be honest. Vaccines are nothing but a money maker for the medical establishment. They are a way to throw a people's immune system off balance; make people sick and cause them to have to go BACK to the doctor who gave them the vaccine in the first place when they get a bad reaction and get more treatment, making that doctor more money, to try to get rid of the side effects. If the vaccine did enough damage it could last their entire life.
The following quote describes what all doctors think about what they prescribe. It makes them money so they aren't about to stop doing it.
"For a pediatrician to attack what has become the bread and butter of pediatric medicine is equivalent to a priest denying the infallibility of the pope." - Robert Mendlesohn M.D.
"The medical-industrial complex has neither wavered nor modified its posture of providing a white washed endorsement and promotion of what is largely an unproven, technological fix of dubious origin which carries within it seeds of disease and death." -Raymond Obomaswin PhD, Author of 'Immunization: Medical Miracle or Masterful Mirage?
If people were SMART, they'd put two and two together and see that it was the original doctor who gave them the vaccine that made them sick in the first place and not only NOT go back to THAT doctor, but also not go to any other of the same kind of doctor. Go to a Naturopathic Doctor (who has spent just as many years in medical school BTW). They need to realize that if the medical doctors knew what they were doing, they wouldn't be giving vaccine in the first place.
Do you actually believe that anyone has ever lived to be 900+? Most people I know left fairy tales behind by about age 8.
The Hunzas of Pakistan live well into their hundreds-- more like 120-140 and there are certainly no vaccines in their culture or ANY modern medicine and are obviously better off without it. They have a very simple lifestyle and very pure food and water. They certainly don't use western medicine-- but they certainly use whole herbs. The 90 year old woman making Chapati at about 9:40 looks like she is about 38. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhK-em8ukck
WE are supposed to live 5x the age we are at maturity. A look at this video shows humans modern life is making us sick and killing us 40 percent sooner than even animals live to be. The Hunzas not only live 5x as long but most of them live 6 or 7x as long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W01u-p9pxLE
"Admitted", LOL! What does a journal editor know? He's not out there in the trenches doing research. He gave no evidence for "up to 50%".
I already posted one link about chickenpox. I guess I'll go find 10 more. CDC - Surveillance of Varicella - Chapter 17 - Vaccine Preventable Diseases "Immunity following varicella infection is considered to be long-lasting and second cases of varicella are thought to be rare. However, second cases may occur more commonly among immunocompetent persons than previously considered.[19,20]". http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4202.pdf "Most people are immune to chickenpox after having
the disease. However, although it is not common,
second cases of chickenpox can occur, particularly
in immunocompromised people." (Note: not only immunocompromised people, though) Chickenpox (Varicella) | Johns Hopkins Medicine Health Library "Very rarely, a second case of chickenpox does occur. "
Ding, ding, ding, ding! Second varicella infections: are they more common than previously thought? - PubMed - NCBI "Second varicella infections: are they more common than previously thought?
RESULTS:Among varicella cases reported to the surveillance project, 4.5% of cases in 1995 and 13.3% of cases in 1999 reported previous varicella. More than 95% of first infections were physician diagnosed, epidemiologically linked to another case, or had a rash description consistent with varicella; the same was true for reported second infections. People who reported reinfections were generally healthy. There was a family history of repeat infections in 45% of people who reported reinfections.
CONCLUSIONS:Clinical varicella reinfections may occur more commonly than previously thought. Additional studies of the predictive value of a positive varicella history and laboratory studies of reported reinfections are indicated to guide varicella vaccination policy." Adults get chickenpox too, Physical conditions body, Health News, AsiaOne YourHealth "As an adult, you can contract chickenpox if you have not had it in the past, or, in rare cases, you may get it for a second time, albeit in a slightly different form."
Let's stop at five this time, K?
I have a friend, an RN who works in public health, whose kids both got second cases of chickenpox at the same time.
Do keep in mind you can get chickenpox more than once. It is hardly a great dependency to get a minor shot a second time!
Any vaccine recommended by ACIP is covered for free at the point of service under the ACA. There are special programs to help those who are uninsured or underinsured (both less of a problem since the ACA). Cost is a red herring issue.
It is extremely true that people who are immunized have less severe disease when they do get a disease. For example, since we were talking about chickenpox: Chickenpox Vaccine "Up to 90% of people who receive the vaccine will not get chickenpox. People who get chickenpox after having the vaccine have a milder form of the disease."
Since one link is never enough for you, here are some more: https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...d-to-Know.aspx "But if someone who has been vaccinated does get chickenpox, it is usually very mild. They will have fewer blisters, are less likely to have a fever, and will recover faster." Chickenpox After Vaccine "A breakthrough infection is usually very mild with fewer skin lesions (usually less than 50) lasting only a few days, with no fever or a low fever, and few other chickenpox symptoms."
Is three enough for this? The same is true of flu and pertussis.
You continue to be wrong about flu.
Reading between the lines of that, are you recommending that people who have had chicken pox. or measles, etc., get a booster for these diseases? To be SAFE? Cannot hurt, right?
I do not understand how in one breathe it can be said these diseases give lifetime immunity, yet in another, saying that the immune system wanes with age. Are you advocating that the elderly with these compromised aging immune systems, get vaccinated for diseases they had as children?
I would not put it past the CDC to say this in the near future. Imagine all the money, plus doctor visits, that can be made from increasing vaccinations. Cradle to Grave.
Would they inform the public they are receiving these? Read the last paragraph. "Will enhance compliance". Those three words are very frightening. You will not know or be able to refuse Frankenfood.
Would they inform the public they are receiving these? Read the last paragraph. "Will enhance compliance". Those three words are very frightening. You will not know or be able to refuse Frankenfood.
"Refusal is Futile". Ever hear that one before?
Of course they won't inform the public. Look at how they've prevented labeling of GMOs in food when 90 percent of people support it. That is why people should grow their own food. Everyone can at least grow sprouts.
What about vaccines you can breathe? They probably have been doing the equivalent for a long time ever since they started spraying chemtrails under the guise of "geoengineering" to try to remove carbon dioxide and stop global warming --( which we all know or, should know, carbon dioxide has zero impact on global warming-- rather it is the SUN that causes it. Duh.)
As long as the primary purpose isn't to kill us, if the end result of the experimentation is that it harms us, our government still allows it. It is no different than an pharmaceutical company getting a drug approved by the FDA. If they can pay the fee to get approved, if it kills X number of people, it is A-O-K. They expected it.Our military has been authorized to study the impact (more like CONTROL) the weather (and use it as a weapon). That has involved spraying a lot of toxic chemicals on us without our being told ahead of time.
They've certainly been getting away with putting aluminum, barium, strontium and cesium in the spray for a long time.
Reading between the lines of that, are you recommending that people who have had chicken pox. or measles, etc., get a booster for these diseases? To be SAFE? Cannot hurt, right?
I do not understand how in one breathe it can be said these diseases give lifetime immunity, yet in another, saying that the immune system wanes with age. Are you advocating that the elderly with these compromised aging immune systems, get vaccinated for diseases they had as children?
I would not put it past the CDC to say this in the near future. Imagine all the money, plus doctor visits, that can be made from increasing vaccinations. Cradle to Grave.
Maybe you should look at what I said and not try to "read between the lines". No one is recommending such boosters. No one. The elderly, particularly the "frail elderly" such as people in nursing homes, or people like my MIL, 96 years young and in an "independent" senior apartment, do have reduced immunity and that's why other people should get vaccinated so they don't expose these folks.
Maybe you should look at what I said and not try to "read between the lines". No one is recommending such boosters. No one. The elderly, particularly the "frail elderly" such as people in nursing homes, or people like my MIL, 96 years young and in an "independent" senior apartment, do have reduced immunity and that's why other people should get vaccinated so they don't expose these folks.
Wait, Katarina, you've been claiming people can get chicken pox again after having acquired it naturally earlier in life (even though no one has realistically ever heard of that happening to anybody in their circles).
So shouldn't all folksy folk get boosters for chicken pox?
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