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You actually need a website to tell you that overeating causes obesity?
I don't why you still even bother replying. I think it's pretty obvious by now that things like facts and reality are never going to get through to these mindless automatons.
You actually need a website to tell you that overeating causes obesity?
Don't play redirect with this poster, and semantics games, shame on you.
Find a peer-reviewed, published research article or two, that states after controlling for every factor known to man, appreciating the context of poverty, and the complexity of obesity, verbatim, "that SNAP receipt (which you are of course linking with overeating), causes obesity."
And, that it is a causal relationship found for every individual, every child, every family, every woman, every race, every group, every subgroup, every region, every party affiliation, every poster, non-poster, no matter what you are, what you do, you enroll in SNAP, you will overeat, you will end up obese.
Again, what is your goal here? What is the end point?
I still really think you should contact the USDA based upon this entire thread, to actually effect some change, especially, to let them know that as a governmental entity, they are deficient with their overlaps, and are willingly advocating for, subsidizing, and in essence supporting the birth of SNAP whales. Please let me know how that works out for you, if you do.
Don't play redirect with this poster, and semantics games, shame on you.
Why shame on me? I'm neither obese (BMI less than 20, female, over 50) nor do I receive food stamps.
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And, that it is a causal relationship found for every individual, every child, every family, every woman, every race, every group, every subgroup, every region, every party affiliation, every poster, non-poster, no matter what you are, what you do, you enroll in SNAP, you will overeat, you will end up obese.
Yes. Those given overlapping and duplicate FNS benefits for the same meals will overeat and become obese. That's exactly what I've been saying.
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Again, what is your goal here? What is the end point?
To draw attention to the fact that the poor are being given too much in welfare benefits to the point that it's causing highly disproportionate obesity among the poor and ruining their health.
Why shame on me? I'm neither obese (BMI less than 20, female, over 50) nor do I receive food stamps.
For jumping to conclusions and not even considering the issue is more complex than a budget report stating we are paying for redundant services.
It's a shame, that if you were more open, your message and "facts" would get a different reception because I don't even see the usual far righties backing you up.
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Yes. Those given overlapping and duplicate FNS benefits for the same meals will overeat and become obese. That's exactly what I've been saying.
So then it should be easy to find an actual report linking it? Is...all...you...got...a link to finances? Can't even muster a right wing think tank report?
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To draw attention to the fact that the poor are being given too much in welfare benefits to the point that it's causing highly disproportionate obesity among the poor and ruining their health.
Why shame on me? I'm neither obese (BMI less than 20, female, over 50) nor do I receive food stamps.
Shame on you for doing what you love to do. Redirect.
Thank you for your sharing your limited demographic profile. It wasn't necessary, what I did ask you about was your professional background or field, but, you've circumvented that question multiple times too.
Back to the shame, the poster you quoted, like me, reiterated in just a little bit of a different way without all the precise terminology, provide a meaningful source, specifically, a peer-reviewed, published research article, (or a site that will lead you to the same thing), establishing a causal relationship, SNAP receipt causes obesity. The poster was interested in you providing information regarding dietary quality, nutrition sources, for subsets of the population too.
But, instead you just played on their words and redirected to your overeating party line.
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Yes. Those given overlapping and duplicate FNS benefits for the same meals will overeat and become obese. That's exactly what I've been saying.
Nope, no causal association. You cannot assign cause. I know that's what you have been saying, you're probably singing it by now. You cannot cross link report findings from independent entities, studying different populations, different topics, different types of design and sampling, and smash it all together and come up with causal associations or links either. I know, it would be easier. It would save a lot of threads and time posting on this forum, for sure. But, you cannot.
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To draw attention to the fact that the poor are being given too much in welfare benefits to the point that it's causing highly disproportionate obesity among the poor and ruining their health.
I think it's a little bit beyond that at this point, attention was long gone by about Page # 10. And, there you go again, sneaking in cause. More variables into the mix now too. There are some really neat courses on sites like Coursera, for instance, where you can take a free research design or statistics course.
But, before that, what's next? You've sufficiently stated your personal version or assessment of the article, the thread, the reports--if these poor people that you clearly have an affinity for, if SNAP is truly ruining their health, now what? What do you do?
I don't why you still even bother replying. I think it's pretty obvious by now that things like facts and reality are never going to get through to these mindless automatons.
Agree. Their insistence on defending the provision of too much food to the poor is so bizarre, though. It's as if they somehow benefit from keeping the poor grossly disproportionately obese and unhealthy. How oppressive and sadistic is that?
But you haven't proven they are overeating.... You just assume it because you found a financial report showing tax money is being use on some, not all, food assistance folks on redundant services.
It's very telling you can't link another, non-financial, site finding a direct link because you still haven't proven anything but we got redundant services.
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44% of adult food stamp recipients are obese. That's not a food desert problem; that's a food GLUTTON problem.
Again.... It's more complex than food deserts and redundant services. But you don't want to acknowledge anything that goes against the narrative you've created.
Agree. Their insistence on defending the provision of too much food to the poor is so bizarre, though. It's as if they somehow benefit from keeping the poor grossly disproportionately obese and unhealthy. How oppressive and sadistic is that?
Are you trying to fool us to think yout actually care about their well being?
Again.... It's more complex than food deserts and redundant services.
It's actually really simple. The NIH nails it...
"Energy balance of the number of calories consumed from foods and beverages with the number of calories the body uses for activity plays a role in preventing excess weight gain."
By eliminating overlapping and duplicate FNS public assistance programs' food provisions for the exact same meals (both FNS authorities and the OIG state such duplication exists), the sources FNS public assistance program participants use to buy too much food and consume too many calories in relation to their physical activity is reduced.
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