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Old 09-01-2015, 04:44 PM
 
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Yes they did.

It started in the 1930's ... over 80 years ago ... when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (the leader of Muslims of the region) made an alliance with Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany and started massacring Jews.
Have to go back even before that. The 1916 Balfour Declaration, dealing with what is now Israel, Jordan, and Palestine.
The Avalon Project : Balfour Declaration November 2, 1917
Behind the Balfour Declaration

Not only that, but the British and French drew lines for new countries (Namely Syria and Iraq). Those lines are still causing problems.
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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Israel and Saudi Arabia are no allies of this country or our people. They are only allies with the entrenched slime in our Government-the Bush/Clinton dynasties, Henry "Lucifer" Kissinger, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc.

Horrible, horrible arrangement for the American people.
Do explain how Israeli society is such a difference and ill reflection of American society? Last I checked, your bashing conflicts with international theory of two liberal democracies.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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Yes they did.
It started in the 1930's ... over 80 years ago ... when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (the leader of Muslims of the region) made an alliance with Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany and started massacring Jews.
Sorry, you didn't go back far enough and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was more of the spokesman (the fall guy because of his foolish connections to the Nazis) than the actual leader.

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Have to go back even before that. The 1916 Balfour Declaration, dealing with what is now Israel, Jordan, and Palestine.
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Not only that, but the British and French drew lines for new countries (Namely Syria and Iraq). Those lines are still causing problems.
Sorry, you didn't go far enough either. But you were close in mentioning the British.

You'd have to cover the secret negotiations between Britain (France was allied to Britain but no friend to most of the Middle East), Sharif Hussein bin Ali and his son Abdullah I bin al-Hussein. Britain made numerous promises to the Arabs to where Britain were to the Jews in the Middle East as Germany were to Jews in Europe. Britain supplied the armaments and were the silent partners to the Arabs while putting up barricade after barricade against the Jews in the Mandate. Britain did not expect the Jews to survive after 1948. And if we want to cover Iran, then it's pretty easy to find the connection between Britain and The Pahlavi dynasty.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Default Why does Iran hate Israel?

I mean it isn't like they are any border disputes. They are 1000 miles apart.

Iran is more Persian than Islamic, so there isn't the 1000s of years of animosity based on religion.

So what is it?
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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US/Israeli bullying in the ME for close to 100 years now. Tired of being bullied.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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US/Israeli bullying in the ME for close to 100 years now. Tired of being bullied.
So then Iran has only recently started hating Israel?

Also remember that Israel has only existed since 1948. (67 years ago)
So to say "close to 100 years" is a little of a stretch.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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So then Iran has only recently started hating Israel?
Very. Iran and Israel had a very close relationship under the Shah, who ruled from 1953 to 1979. El Al even had an office in Tehran, and there were flights between Israel and Iran.

Even after the fall of the Shah Israel sold weapons to Iran, along with parts for the F-4 so Iran could keep its planes in the air during the Iran-Iraq War. Iran and Israel also worked together during that war to destroy Saddam's nuclear reactor at Osirak.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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I mean it isn't like they are any border disputes. They are 1000 miles apart.

Iran is more Persian than Islamic, so there isn't the 1000s of years of animosity based on religion.

So what is it?
Iran is Persian, but Zoroastrian Persia was invaded by Arab Muslims centuries ago, and since then they only follow the tenets of Islam. With the apostasy punishment being death in Islam, many Persians are stuck with the death cult of Islam.

Muhammad raped (Safiya), tortured (Kinana of Khaybar), and killed Jews (Banu Qurayza) in his quest to get them to listen to the commands of his sock puppet Allah.

"Judgment Day will come only when the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, until the Jew hides behind the tree and the stone, and the tree and the stone say: ‘Oh Muslim, Oh servant of Allah , there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him’" - Muhammad
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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Muhammad himself killed many Jews
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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US/Israeli bullying in the ME for close to 100 years now. Tired of being bullied.
Wrong.
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