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Old 08-23-2015, 09:09 PM
 
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propaganda by anti choice people. PP does not solicit women late in their pregnancy to have a late term abortion so they can make money. you rather the fetal remains be thrown in the garbage?
More immoral thinking here. The Nazis thought "the Jews are going to be killed anyway so why not experiment on them?" Horrible.

People have marched in the street to protect animals from abuse but a baby, if the mother says she doesn't want it than it's no holds on what they can do.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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adoption is an answer if you don't want to be a parent. abortion is the answer if you don't want to be pregnant.
Using birth control or not having unprotected sex is the answer if you don't want to GET pregnant.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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The most important question to anti-choicers is: how many unwanted children have you adopted in your lifetime?
That's a worn out straw man fallacy.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:38 PM
 
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Some kids are probably luckier to have not been born rather than start life with all cards stacked against them. If your mom is a crack head prostitute, and your bioogical dad was some "john" that you'll never know, you don't have a chance at a decent life. To be honest, I wish I had been aborted.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:12 AM
 
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propaganda by anti choice people. PP does not solicit women late in their pregnancy to have a late term abortion so they can make money. you rather the fetal remains be thrown in the garbage?
Do you mean anti choice as wanting to make it illegal?

The video only addresses the morality of abortion not the legality. Unless he completely changed his tune, Mr. Prager has always stated his personal view that abortion should be legal in the first trimester but discouraged in favor of adoption. He has always referred to an unborn baby as a "nascent" human being. This may not be equal to a born baby, but it doesn't mean it doesn't have intrinsic value.

After all, what ever is cookin' in there, it's a one of kind blueprint for a human being. There will never be another like it.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:23 AM
 
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Some kids are probably luckier to have not been born rather than start life with all cards stacked against them. If your mom is a crack head prostitute, and your bioogical dad was some "john" that you'll never know, you don't have a chance at a decent life. To be honest, I wish I had been aborted.
Really?

Even after stating:

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Old 08-24-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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Petition - Planned Parenthood Exposed

You can sign this petition to stop PP from harvesting baby organs.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:50 AM
 
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Default LOL @ Definition of "Morality"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwkQVpy98A

The PP thread said to start a new thread. ??? So am putting this here. This video really makes a person think.



Hate to break it to you but this is not new info.

Argument FAIL @1:49 when talking about "rights of the mother" is totally glossed over with double talking rhetoric and total avoidance of the question at best and admitting that the mother is inconsequential at worst.

They basically answer by asking if ending the life of a fetus is moral and basically tell you that a fetus has "infinite worth" and imply that the mother has NONE!

I literally LOLed then stopped watching.





Make a more valid argument if this is meant to prevent intelligent people from aborting fetuses. This video seems like it was made to brainwash someone with an 8th grade intelligence. Some people don't believe everything they are told just because an old white guy tells them. Its not 1980 anymore.

Otherwise "your kind" is in for decades of complaints regarding paying for welfare and food stamps with your taxes and continued oblivion about one potential major source of this problem- people having babies who are not emotionally or financially ready to have them and may never be.

Nice job "attempting" to see that ALL BORN ANIMALS have rights though.(Although it would have been a more logical argument to compare them to animal FETUSES) But i know NO pro-birthers who are vegetarian, vegan or who don't hunt. How many do you know?

Thus, ARGUMENT FAIL #2 within the first 25% of this film!



Sorry, but "pro-lifers" complaining about taxes, welfare, etc, one's who eat meat, hunt, wear leather, accuse the mentally ill as "faking disabilities," etc, are among THE LEAST "MORAL" PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET!!

And i really AM SORRY about that because it frustrates the hell out of me how obtuse, narcissistic, self-righteous and/or counter-intelligent most pro-"life" people are!

If you are AGAINST tax raises to pay for these "lives" and/or against adoption, YOU ARE PRO-BIRTH. YOU ARE NOT PRO-LIFE.


Like you said OP, it certainly makes one "think" alright . . . .


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Old 08-24-2015, 01:16 AM
 
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Too bad you stopped watching and missed the last sentence. "Good societies can survive with people doing immoral thing but good societies cannot survive if it calls immoral things, moral."
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:42 AM
 
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Sorry to point it out again but this argument is moot.

Abortion is legal and has been since 1973. Now with the morning after pill and other options it is more available than ever. No matter how much moral protest occurs, the US is not going back to the days of illegal back room procedures and hospital emergency room visits for women so why the strong rhetoric ?

If you are against abortion - don't have one and work to help support adoptive services and new/unwed/disadvanged mother counseling. Stop with all the hate and live by your principles.
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