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Old 09-02-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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I first heard these chants last year in Ferguson during the first protest. One of the guys I saw inciting the crowd into saying these stupid chant is named Bassem. They would stand in front of the officers and shout that into their face while outright threatening the officers. They are part of the BLM movement and some of them video their dirt. They recently stop showing the faces of certain people after we were using their video footage to get them arrested multiple times.

 
Old 09-02-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Please move this thread to the Food and Drink forum where it belongs please.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 07:31 AM
 
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Gives people something to do when they have nothing else going on like a Job! Does someone pay them to do this? I know they receive govt checks and other social services what else do they want. Those with good sense have to be embarrassed by them and try to put distance between them. Even black leaders arent supporting them.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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Gives people something to do when they have nothing else going on like a Job! Does someone pay them to do this? I know they receive govt checks and other social services what else do they want. Those with good sense have to be embarrassed by them and try to put distance between them. Even black leaders arent supporting them.
A lot of them beg for money through their gofundme account. We been successful in getting a lot of those gofundme accounts shut down.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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Dylan Roof was a deranged psychopath. There has been deranged black psychopaths too.. But nobody forced them to stop promoting their heritage or label all of the mas murderers or racists because of the actions of one maniac.

How many black guys get fed well, are given booze, cigarettes, etc to get a confession? Seriously, that is so silly that a person would even criticize LEO for having to do their job in this respect.

Considering he committed his act in South Carolina, he is probably going to get another free meal before he is put into that death chamber that so many of the bleeding heart liberals say is unethical! I bet the same bleeding hearts won't feel bad about killing off a racist white maniac who killed innocent black people.
No support for dylan here. Pathetic loser whos free attorneys will be pleading insanity to save his ass. Any one can be out of it at the time of the crime and get real better after the deed. Thing about whites is they kill small most of the time but make it up more often with mass killings. The blacks who did mass killing was Lee Malvo and John muhammed were caught and convicted with Muhammed getting death sentence and now in a deep sleep. The younger serving life sentence. Known as Beltway snipers in 2009.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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Gives people something to do when they have nothing else going on like a Job! Does someone pay them to do this? I know they receive govt checks and other social services what else do they want. Those with good sense have to be embarrassed by them and try to put distance between them. Even black leaders arent supporting them.
Yet, how many have stepped forward and asked these blacks to take a look at their lives and WHAT are they producing as a positive step in changing the world. Or is it only America that needs changing......
 
Old 09-02-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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The BLM, much like the Tea Party movement, rose as a chaotic protest movement by people outraged over issues of deep concern (government spending and police brutality). Unfortunately, both movements has lacked discipline and too often by defined by their most extreme elements. At this point, both movements are pretty discredited as too radical in the eyes of the "swing voters" who decide issues.

In a way, it is a shame. Both movements make important points. But, the BLM rhetoric and tactics are self-defeating and turn off the moderates. I wish they would focus more on putting forth a positive, unifying message of concrete policy proposals, instead of a radical tactics and vague grievances about white supremacy.

The BLM movement actually makes supports some very basic good governance points that would command widespread support.
1) Independent police investigation- it is just natural that organizations will protect themselves and their members. Would conservatives trust the IRS to conduct an internal review of its procedures? Checks and balances on power is a hallmark of our government and constitution.
2) Reforming sentencing for non-violent drug offenders- We spend a lot of people locking people up for drug offense. Sure we should remove dangerous/problematic individuals from the community. But, often times we lock up people to do mandatory minimums that are set without regard to their danger to the community. GA's conservative republican governor Nathan Deal has been leading on this issue and is a possible model for conservatives.
3) More Cameras- Of course there are legitimate concerns about 2nd guessing police officers in a chaotic situation from the comfort of a TV screen. But, in general, cameras will help provide a better sense of what happened. Ultimately, we should be concerned with the truth. Cameras sometimes show police have made mistakes and lied about them. But, just as often (or more often) they show police acted responsibly. The suspect did have a gun/was resisting arrest, etc. Criminal suspects (and their friends) almost always claim they were abused,unfairly targeted, evidence was planted, etc. Cameras work both ways.
4) De-escalation and Bias training- Good police training is important. Police are often in chaotic, dangerous situations where quick decision making is important. That is why training is important. We have seen a few cases where police jumped the gun and shot too quickly or used excessive force against law abiding unarmed civilians. In many cases police have actually injured innocent bystanders.
5) Ending predatory fines for government revenues- Conservatives out to love this one. Fines should be used a punishment for legitimate violations, not a piggy bank for the government.
6) Community Policing- Conservatives oppose the federal government for just this reason. They want local schools to lead on education, because the government closest to the people will tend to know them best. Same principal here. Policing and public safety is best, when their is trust and relationships between the police and the public.

The BLM really need a pragmatic, "happy warrior" type who is willing to police the extremists and focus on building a issue-based coalition around enacting realistic reforms. The BLM doesn't want to end up like the Occupy Wall Street folks, who were so radical and disengaged from the actually nighty gritty of politics/policy making that we know have massive republican domination of the congress and state houses.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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That chant doesn't even makes sense. Does it actually mean what some of you think it mean? I'm in no way endorsing or agreeing with this nonsense but saying pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon is a bit silly.
Calling for the murder of innocent police lives is hardly "silly".

Of course it means that. And if you don't condemn it, you condone it.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Calling for the murder of innocent police lives is hardly "silly".

Of course it means that. And if you don't condemn it, you condone it.
Indeed, regardless of what the chant literally is translated to mean, its clear what the protesters meant by it. There is nothing silly about calling for someone's murder.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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The BLM, much like the Tea Party movement, rose as a chaotic protest movement by people outraged over issues of deep concern (government spending and police brutality). Unfortunately, both movements has lacked discipline and too often by defined by their most extreme elements. At this point, both movements are pretty discredited as too radical in the eyes of the "swing voters" who decide issues.

In a way, it is a shame. Both movements make important points. But, the BLM rhetoric and tactics are self-defeating and turn off the moderates. I wish they would focus more on putting forth a positive, unifying message of concrete policy proposals, instead of a radical tactics and vague grievances about white supremacy.

The BLM movement actually makes supports some very basic good governance points that would command widespread support.
1) Independent police investigation- it is just natural that organizations will protect themselves and their members. Would conservatives trust the IRS to conduct an internal review of its procedures? Checks and balances on power is a hallmark of our government and constitution.
2) Reforming sentencing for non-violent drug offenders- We spend a lot of people locking people up for drug offense. Sure we should remove dangerous/problematic individuals from the community. But, often times we lock up people to do mandatory minimums that are set without regard to their danger to the community. GA's conservative republican governor Nathan Deal has been leading on this issue and is a possible model for conservatives.
3) More Cameras- Of course there are legitimate concerns about 2nd guessing police officers in a chaotic situation from the comfort of a TV screen. But, in general, cameras will help provide a better sense of what happened. Ultimately, we should be concerned with the truth. Cameras sometimes show police have made mistakes and lied about them. But, just as often (or more often) they show police acted responsibly. The suspect did have a gun/was resisting arrest, etc. Criminal suspects (and their friends) almost always claim they were abused,unfairly targeted, evidence was planted, etc. Cameras work both ways.
4) De-escalation and Bias training- Good police training is important. Police are often in chaotic, dangerous situations where quick decision making is important. That is why training is important. We have seen a few cases where police jumped the gun and shot too quickly or used excessive force against law abiding unarmed civilians. In many cases police have actually injured innocent bystanders.
5) Ending predatory fines for government revenues- Conservatives out to love this one. Fines should be used a punishment for legitimate violations, not a piggy bank for the government.
6) Community Policing- Conservatives oppose the federal government for just this reason. They want local schools to lead on education, because the government closest to the people will tend to know them best. Same principal here. Policing and public safety is best, when their is trust and relationships between the police and the public.

The BLM really need a pragmatic, "happy warrior" type who is willing to police the extremists and focus on building a issue-based coalition around enacting realistic reforms. The BLM doesn't want to end up like the Occupy Wall Street folks, who were so radical and disengaged from the actually nighty gritty of politics/policy making that we know have massive republican domination of the congress and state houses.
I am sorry but the BLM is not like the tea party, not once did the tea party call for violence, especially against law enforcement.
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