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Old 10-01-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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Oh look, its EXACTLY like I said. "marginal"

And you stated it was for "average taxpayers" when the article is discussing the marginal rate of high income tax payers.

In other words, your statements are complete nonsense. Hey did you know that Romneys marginal federal rate was over 30%....and his effective rate was under 15%?

Sigh.
But you guys are the left have been moaning and groaning that deductions were bad, and that deductions are subsidies.. Ironic that the more Democratic a state is, the higher the difference between effective, vs marginal?

When did deductions become valid in your mind, after Romneys taxes were no longer an issue, or after ACA passed, where the left went moaning and groaning that health insurance write offs were "subsidies"?

btw, Romneys 15%, did not include state, property etc, and you know that...

 
Old 10-01-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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aha - those kids will work from home -the park- the beach- off a tablet or laptop.. never set foot in a work place
They are still working though.. I rarely have to leave my house, havent set a foot in a work place in 15 years, but I still work..
 
Old 10-01-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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But you guys are the left have been moaning and groaning that deductions were bad, and that deductions are subsidies.. Ironic that the more Democratic a state is, the higher the difference between effective, vs marginal?

When did deductions become valid in your mind, after Romneys taxes were no longer an issue, or after ACA passed, where the left went moaning and groaning that health insurance write offs were "subsidies"?
Oh look, smacked around for being deceptive about taxes...and you change the topic to...subsidies now. Really? Thats just sad. Actually I think we're more upset about people lying, misinforming, and straight out being deceptive.....then deductions etc.

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btw, Romneys 15%, did not include state, property etc, and you know that...

Please note-I SPECIFICALLY pointed out I was talking about federal rates there. Last I noticed that did not include state or property, so yes, I did in fact know that, and took pains to point it out. Apparently those efforts were in vain.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Could it be the proposed 6 hour work day is to provide more jobs? IIRC Sweden is one of the places where extensive automation has reduced the number of workers needed so reducing hours increases demand for workers.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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And one day we may only work 10 hours a week. It is call progress and civilization.

If it was up to the conservatives the standard work week would be 60-80 hours.

Depends heavily on the profession.

As to the bolded: link please?
 
Old 10-01-2015, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The conservative ideal is the old fashioned Company Town where long hours were combined with company housing and the Company store so the workers could never have anything left over to save. They were effectively slaves. We do not want to return to those days. This is the main reason we need a universal Union to counteract the one big company.

At the very heart of conservatism is the idea that monetary and physical possessions are more important than anything else. This is a result of worshipping money first and foremost.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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Who exactly are these individuals that support a 60-80 work week? lets start there..

Until then, all your doing is posting nonsense and lies.. to support some preconceived notion which is flat out false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RERORKXNU





the average worker in the US today would only have to work 11 hours per week to be as productive as his fellow worker in 1950.



You may want to read about the struggles to reduce the work day to 8 hours and who opposed this decision. In this thread you can see the opposition to the shorter work week, this is typical if workoholic right wings.
 
Old 10-01-2015, 08:55 AM
 
Location: North America
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Well, we don't live in Sweden. And a 6 hour work day will not happen in the US, at least not in a few generations.

Anyone remember the push for the 4-day work week a few years back?
 
Old 10-01-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Depends heavily on the profession.

As to the bolded: link please?
see post 124
 
Old 10-01-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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False. Income taxes and property taxes for average worker in NJ, NY, CT are higher than in Sweden.
LMAO....Here's a real genius of a post. Those are LOCAL taxes, the total of ALL taxes are MUCH higher in Sweden. I don't understand how there are so many really, I mean REALLY stupid people in this country. It's downright embarrassing.
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