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I'm talking about events where there WAS an armed civilian that saved the day.
You in the US have more armed civilians than Canada or France, yet you have more gun deaths. Where are all the hero's in the US ?
I wonder how many people in the US that do carry guns, for the purposes of protection or stopping a crime, believe they do NOT have the ability to assess the situation. Human nature tells me, probably most of them believe they do have that ability. Wrongly of course, but hey, that's people for you.
Could a large part of the gun deaths in the US be attributed to the gangs that roam unchecked in most of our urban centers? Chicago, L.A., New York. Very little is done to combat these thugs and the strangle hold they have on certain parts of these cities.
I have no doubt there are many people who wrongly feel they can handle a gun safely. But there are probably an equal amount or more who can.
The Internet is full of thousands of examples of armed civilians taking down shooters before, during and after shootings that most likely would have turned into "mass shootings"
Could a large part of the gun deaths in the US be attributed to the gangs that roam unchecked in most of our urban centers? Chicago, L.A., New York. Very little is done to combat these thugs and the strangle hold they have on certain parts of these cities.
I have no doubt there are many people who wrongly feel they can handle a gun safely. But there are probably an equal amount or more who can.
Of course it can be attributed to gangs....however....where did those gangs get guns? The gangs in Canada get guns illegally too...but those guns came across a certain border.
Also mass shooters are usually not gang members.
Then there is the issue of accidental gun deaths. Even if the whole country were law abiding gun owners, you would still have many accidental deaths. Higher than other places.
I am not much a gun enthusiast, so it wouldn't bother me to see a lot fewer on the streets, but I am becoming resigned to the grim reality, like with terrorism too, both are here to stay and be a part of our lives, like it or not.
The NRA has good reason to celebrate, because there really does not seem to be any way to stop gun violence now that so many are available on the streets. Obviously, no matter what you do from a legal standpoint, those who want to perpetrate gun violence will find the gun and do their crazy gun thing.
Same with the terrorist, be they Muslim, Christian or Zoroastrian, someone wants to kill innocent people and maybe themselves too while they're at it, pretty much impossible to stop.
So from a practical standpoint, what to do?
Keep a cool head, trust thy neighbor but be wary as well. This is our new world, the new normal, and no doubt Obama is right to point out this has somehow become routine.
Why? Because terrorism and gun violence is now routine, and there is nothing anyone can think to do that can actually stop this problem from occurring again.
The Internet is full of thousands of examples of armed civilians taking down shooters before, during and after shootings that most likely would have turned into "mass shootings"
Please share them. You should, especially if it proves your position.
This is funny and very American. Your guns agains tanks, jet fighters etc. Ya, that's going to work. At best you will be holed up like in Waco, Texas...eventually....
Also this attack on Liberals, as if they are the only ones for saner gun laws. I'm sure there are many people from all political stripes that favour gun control.
How many years did Russia spend trying to put down an insurgency in Afghanistan? 20+, wasn't it? Afghan rebels weren't armed with tanks and jets, they were armed with rifles and a few RPGs. Yet, they fought one of the largest armies in the world to a standstill.
As for liberals and gun laws, don't forget that liberals supported both the AWB law, which was allowed to sunset because it had zero effect on crime, and the gun free zone law, which has helped to double mass shootings since it was passed by giving psychopaths their own little hunting preserves. Using the terms "liberal" and "sane" in the same sentence is the definition of oxymoron. The vast majority of shooters have been shown to be liberal, come from liberal backgrounds, or support liberal agendas.
Please share them. You should, especially if it proves your position.
I'm not here for your pleasure. I could give a crap whether you believe what I post. You want the information go dig it up.
The truth is out there your problem is that you would prefer that is wasn't. Doesn't fit into your neat little Hoplophobic box.
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Tory is actually my first name.