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even the score? who said life was fair? you want to force business owners to close? that sounds like a policy that would work in America why should a business owner close because you think they should? their business they can open or close when they want. lets force them all to close on sunday eh?
to millions of people, holidays have no real special meaning, so who gets to make the call? people who care? people who don't? or the owner of the business? don't want to support a business that's open on a holiday, easy don't shop there.
I don't know anyone who objects to a paid holiday, other than the guy who has to pay for the worker to be away from work instead of making him more money.
I'd rather not force anyone, but it's obvious you can't expect corporations to do the right thing over the profitable thing. Contrary to the legalese developed and pushed onto the books by corporate headquarters, a corporation is NOT a person and should not have the freedom and rights of a person.
People first, corporations second. Seems like we should be more concerned with the needs of the 99% than the 1%.
I don't know anyone who objects to a paid holiday, other than the guy who has to pay for the worker to be away from work instead of making him more money.
I'd rather not force anyone, but it's obvious you can't expect corporations to do the right thing over the profitable thing.
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I work for a corporation and get paid holidays.
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I don't know anyone who objects to a paid holiday, other than the guy who has to pay for the worker to be away from work instead of making him more money.
I'd rather not force anyone, but it's obvious you can't expect corporations to do the right thing over the profitable thing. Contrary to the legalese developed and pushed onto the books by corporate headquarters, a corporation is NOT a person and should not have the freedom and rights of a person.
People first, corporations second. Seems like we should be more concerned with the needs of the 99% than the 1%.
It either a paid holiday or pay them time and a half to work, so you go with the paid holiday, LOL.
Me too (well, legally anyway as it's also local government)... good for us! My employer is also closed every legal holiday, which is very nice.
I feel bad for the people who are forced to work them even though it is nonessential for their work to be open for business on a holiday. It's just plain greed that keeps them open on holidays in first place.
I don't know anyone who objects to a paid holiday, other than the guy who has to pay for the worker to be away from work instead of making him more money.
I'd rather not force anyone, but it's obvious you can't expect corporations to do the right thing over the profitable thing. Contrary to the legalese developed and pushed onto the books by corporate headquarters, a corporation is NOT a person and should not have the freedom and rights of a person.
People first, corporations second. Seems like we should be more concerned with the needs of the 99% than the 1%.
again who gets to say what the right thing is? has there been a national survey that says 99% of the people think stores should close on Thanksgiving? why should a store owner close if he has business? the best way to express your displeasure with it is to not shop there on the holiday and let everyone else who does want to shop, shop.
Just to throw in here, one of the drivers to these stores opening on holidays is the competition from online retailers who only close if their servers go down.
Me too (well, legally anyway as it's also local government)... good for us! My employer is also closed every legal holiday, which is very nice.
I feel bad for the people who are forced to work them even though it is nonessential for their work to be open for business on a holiday. It's just plain greed that keeps them open on holidays in first place.
not everyone that work a holiday cares they are working it. many families celebrate holidays on other days because schedules conflict. they get together on the week end and not on Thursday. have xmas before or after the 25th. the point of thanksgiving is to be thankful it shouldn't have to be on Thursday.
Okay, consumerism based....didn't realize we were splitting hairs here.
You do realize stores wouldn't open on Thanksgiving if customers didn't show up to shop?
The point is why customers want to show up. Who benefits from the frenzy that we see televised?
Here in the US, stuff is just stuff. We have mass produced stuff coming out of our ears. Why do people trample each other for cheap TVs? Because they've been emotionally manipulated, and are somehow blind to the fact that perfectly good TVs can be had for cheap or free - I've passed up two this week myself. No, the one that they trampled each other for three years ago is no longer worth having, even though it works as well as it ever did.
Nevertheless, no law is needed. Except for groceries, I don't shop for anything between Thanksgiving and December 26. I don't trample anyone for anything either, I fail to see the fun.
The point is why customers want to show up. Who benefits from the frenzy that we see televised?
Here in the US, stuff is just stuff. We have mass produced stuff coming out of our ears. Why do people trample each other for cheap TVs? Because they've been emotionally manipulated, and are somehow blind to the fact that perfectly good TVs can be had for cheap or free - I've passed up two this week myself. No, the one that they trampled each other for three years ago is no longer worth having, even though it works as well as it ever did.
Nevertheless, no law is needed. Except for groceries, I don't shop for anything between Thanksgiving and December 26. I don't trample anyone for anything either, I fail to see the fun.
Personally I prefer shopping online these days over going in store, but I will say marketing is a science and the marketers in the US have Americans figured out to the T.
With that said, my wife and I did hit up Target last year on our way home after Thanksgiving to pick up a few things and it was pretty calm at 10pm that night.
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why should a business owner close because you think they should? their business they can open or close when they want. lets force them all to close on sunday eh? 