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Obama is the one who could have picked up that phone and bombed that ISIS force at any time. All those missed opportunities.
Think of it this way-every time you see a photo of a smiling waving bunch of black clad jihadies riding in the back of shiny new Toyota taliban taxies, every one of those photos you see, was an opportunity to destroy that enemy that was utterly missed. Every one of those photos is the recruiting tool ISIS uses to impress the young men who feel that ISIS in untouchable.
ISIS may have had roots in the Iraq conflict but was not a serious player until the Clinton/Kerry/Obama foreign policy team decided to upend the secular strongmen running the middle east, and keeping groups like ISIS in check. Mobarack, Ghaddafi, and now Assad, who they are working on through ISIS, were rat bastards of human debris but that's what is needed to keep the jihadis in check. The increase in terrorism is a Obama problem. He is too busy fighting hos own countrymen to bother with actual terrorists.
the jokers causing problems actually were detained at one time and let go-- Busch did kill one of the leaders but not all and the chaos was birthed then... You can say all you want if you look at the facts and real time history these jokers came as a result of Busch politics. Obama was not even around. Now the republicans did not approve the Patriot Act and underfunded many Intel programs --and i will say it again -- we are on a CR and there is no funding-- right now -- the congress is going home for Thanksgiving... YOU SEE THEM WORRIED?
so Obama doesn't take any responsibility from January/2009 to Present????? he only takes credit for the good things?
Didn't Obama kept most of Bush policies in the Middle East and kept most of the people managing the war under Bush? but Obama you say wasn't around for the last 7 years???? LOL
There is no Republican obstructionism. You've got a sitting president who will do absolutely nothing to protect this country, and he had every opportunity to send ground troops the last few years. A president with common sense would not have pulled out of Iraq when we had that war won. Obama just didn't want us to finish the job. Republicans (at least, the ones willing to stand up to Obama) are trying to stop him from bringing potentially dangerous refugees into the place where you and I live. That's not obstructionism; that's just common sense.
Originally Posted by odanny Your boy Bush created ISIS in the first place.
many insurgents groups in Iraq during Bush's term but NONE of them took control of 2 countries under Bush's watch and we didn't have a refugee crisis under Bush.....that ALL happened under Obama's watch.
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When Bush left office in JAN/2009 Iraq was stable and ISIS didn't control cities in Iraq and Syria and NO refugee crisis.
No, Iraq was not stable. It was a barely held together failed state that only survived because the US was propping it up.
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many insurgents groups in Iraq during Bush's term but NONE of them took control of 2 countries under Bush's watch and we didn't have a refugee crisis under Bush.....that ALL happened under Obama's watch.
Except that ISIS was around under Bush. They declared an Islamic state in Iraq way back in 2006.
The US beat them back a bit with the surge but they still controlled areas of Mosul, Baghdad, Anbar, and Diyala.
Only in the mindset of those ready to place all blame at the feet of those who don't subscribe to their collectivist, socialist, Politically Correct absolutes.
OK, over there in LeftyLand -- Keep repeating (even after seven years):
Bush, Bush, Bush ......... Bush
It's time to stop beating a dead horse, and peddling simple answers .... to simple minds.
Simple minds have no understanding of history or complex socio-political situations that have created ISIS. Ignore history at your own risk. Like it or not, Bush and Cheney are a huge part of the history that created ISIS. Only ostriches would disagree.
Their refusal to work together on anything is certainly not helping.
The political situation in this country is sad. It is not surprising that practically no one approves the Congress, and that goes for both parties.
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