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A temporay pause in our refugee and immigration policy, to improve our vetting process, is not the same as passing a new law. You are just inflating and distorting this issue.
We cannot pass laws discriminating against people just for being from Japan either, but we did restrict immigration of Japanese people during WWII, for national security concerns. Trump is not even close to calling for even that. He sees flaws in or vetting process, and sees a pause as a legitimate option.
A temporary pause in the Constitution is a blow to the heart of the principles our country was founded upon.
A temporary pause in the Constitution is a blow to the heart of the principles our country was founded upon.
You do know that the Constitution or any part of it can be suspended for national security reasons right? I figured you didn't know that, but anyway, the Constitution has absolutely not a damn thing to do with any of this. You are only showing how ignorant you are about the entire subject.
You do know that the Constitution or any part of it can be suspended for national security reasons right? I figured you didn't know that, but anyway, the Constitution has absolutely not a damn thing to do with any of this. You are only showing how ignorant you are about the entire subject.
A pause, temporary or otherwise, of the Constitution is a blow to the heart of the principles this country was founded upon.
Isn't part of liberty part of Americans for them to decide immigration law? What in the constitution prevents this
Just like banning someone part of a communist party [when he could easily join one in the USA under the bill of rights] or saying Death to Americans [when he could say that under the bill of rights in the USA]. Why can't we do the same for religion and people trying to emigrate?
Form a logical cohesive argument, please. So far DC ridge could not.
The 1st Amendment prevents it. It prevents it for the communist party member, the Death to America chanter, and the religious minority. In the 70s, the Supreme Court didn't have the guts to muster 5 votes for the Communist Party member. I don't think the Supreme Court today has the guts to muster 5 votes for the Death to America chanter. But the Supreme Court does today have the guts to muster 5 votes for the religious minority.
Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. At the founding, there was no immigration law. America was a refuge for religious minorities fleeing persecution in Europe. Religious liberty was considered a natural right of all persons. It still is.
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You're right.
Even the ACLU acknowledges that aliens who aren't even here yet have no constitutional rights. It's also hard to believe that there are those who think that people from other countries have a right to simply enter this country without a visa. Visas which, BTW, can be restricted.
The Second (or any other) Amendment "comparison" is so ludicrous, I won't even comment on it.
Visas can be restricted, but not on the basis of religion.
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You do know that the Constitution or any part of it can be suspended for national security reasons right? I figured you didn't know that, but anyway, the Constitution has absolutely not a damn thing to do with any of this. You are only showing how ignorant you are about the entire subject.
That is false. Habeas corpus can be suspended in the case of invasion or insurrection. Article I, section 9. That's it.
The 1st Amendment prevents it. It prevents it for the communist party member, the Death to America chanter, and the religious minority. In the 70s, the Supreme Court didn't have the guts to muster 5 votes for the Communist Party member. I don't think the Supreme Court today has the guts to muster 5 votes for the Death to America chanter. But the Supreme Court does today have the guts to muster 5 votes for the religious minority.
Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. At the founding, there was no immigration law. America was a refuge for religious minorities fleeing persecution in Europe. Religious liberty was considered a natural right of all persons. It still is.
Visas can be restricted, but not on the basis of religion.
That is false. Habeas corpus can be suspended in the case of invasion or insurrection. Article I, section 9. That's it.
Nope, not true at all. Also, visas can be restricted for any reason they want to.
And lawsuits can be filed when our government violates the Constitution of the United States.
Can you articulate why that law violates the constitution? When the constitution was ratified, the bill of rights only applied to american citizens. It didn't even apply to people living in the USA.
So what amendment makes sure the bill of rights applies to people trying to emigrate to this nation, because it's certainly not in the first 10.
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Visas which, BTW, can be restricted.
