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Old 01-11-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why is Norway now teaching its Muslim migrants how to treat women and why rape is wrong?

Are they far right conservative bigots?

Or do they realize the fact that these Muslim migrants come from a culture that does not value women the same way the West does?
Why do US college/universities teach US students:

No is not yes.

Drunk is not yes.

Not sure is not yes.

Silence is not yes.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am familiar with the Logan story. I am also familiar that it was Egyptian women, covered head to toe, that saved and protected her. Had they not done so, she likely would have died.

I have read all the links.

The link I provided is what came up when I googled " taharrush". Maybe someone here who understands German can translate. It's not clear if the intent was to portray this as what happened on NYE or just a stock clip of mob violence, likely in Cairo in 2011. It's propaganda.

I have no clue what Germany was thinking when it opened its arms to so many migrants at once.
That is not a German word.

http://harassmap.org/en/wp-content/u...t-in-Egypt.pdf
sexual harassment, or el-taḥarrush el-ginsy, in Egypt.


You're being dense here. Why not just go back to "It happens all the time to you at public events" ?
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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Why is Norway now teaching its Muslim migrants how to treat women and why rape is wrong?

Are they far right conservative bigots?

Or do they realize the fact that these Muslim migrants come from a culture that does not value women the same way the West does?

They are being told that so that when it occurs they cannot plead ignorance.


These grown men know about freedom in western culture, many of them are here to benefit from it. They feel because they were invited to these countries, they can do what they want.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why is Norway now teaching its Muslim migrants how to treat women and why rape is wrong?

Are they far right conservative bigots?

Or do they realize the fact that these Muslim migrants come from a culture that does not value women the same way the West does?
Because rapes in that country increased 1700% with the majority of the perpetrators being "men of color".
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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Some of the posts on this topic in this and the other active thread, seem to suggest that women are not harassed or raped or gang raped or subjected to violence anywhere other than in the Arab world- that only in the Arab world are women held responsible for men's behavior.

Nothing could be further from the truth. It's a matter of degrees of separation.
No. "Womens' rights" barely exist in Arab countries. Trust the people that have actually been over there. Feminists would probably get beheaded or raped for protesting and nobody would bat an eye.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's a matter of degree and consequence.

Any links to show over 1000 German men mass assaulting women in small groups at a public event ?
Or Finnish men or Danish men or any group of men other than Arab ?
Of course I have no links because it's unlikely 1000 native European men would behave the way these pigs did on NYE.

Are women assaulted/harassed at public events in the US and Europe? You betcha.

At some events, a woman might be groped a dozen or more times, usually by undetected men moving through the crowds with intentions of distraction rather than intimidation.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Of course I have no links because it's unlikely 1000 native European men would behave the way these pigs did on NYE.

Are women assaulted/harassed at public events in the US and Europe? You betcha.

At some events, a woman might be groped a dozen or more times, usually by undetected men moving through the crowds with intentions of distraction rather than intimidation.
Nothing at all like what happened on NYE in Germany, Finland, Denmark and other countries that took in boatloads of ME migrants.

Hordes of migrant men surrounding women and sexually assaulting them.

It's wasn't just in Cologne and it wasn't just a one off and it wasn't just one group of 30-40 as you posted a few days ago.

It was a disgusting custom they brought with them from their anti-women homeland.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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No. "Womens' rights" barely exist in Arab countries. Trust the people that have actually been over there. Feminists would probably get beheaded or raped for protesting and nobody would bat an eye.
Syrian women gained the right to vote in the early 50's and achieve universal suffrage following that. Women attended university and drove. Pre civil war there was a massive movement to ban the hiijab.

Like anywhere else, what happens in urban areas may not be what's going on in villages. No clue where these migrants come from.

Saudi Arabia, long time US ally, has a horrible human rights track record, especially towards women. Can't imagine there were Saudis among the Syrian migrants.
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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Syrian women gained the right to vote in the early 50's and achieve universal suffrage following that. Women attended university and drove. Pre civil war there was a massive movement to ban the hiijab.

Like anywhere else, what happens in urban areas may not be what's going on in villages. No clue where these migrants come from.

Saudi Arabia, long time US ally, has a horrible human rights track record, especially towards women. Can't imagine there were Saudis among the Syrian migrants.
Barely 20% of these migrants to Europe are from Syria. They come from other ME countries and Africa.
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