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With congress giving them the authority to set regulations, they have the power of law.
Yes. But Congress still has the responsibility of oversight, and can change or overturn any regulation at any time.
Regulation is a necessity in a democracy, and there has never been a rule written that someone did not like.
But that does not give the person who hates the rule permission to do as he pleases, just because he disagrees with the rule.
Anyone who thinks they are above the law, or beyond its reach, is delusional. The United States is a nation of laws and will remain so forever. Every citizen has the means to redress a grievance legally, but not all grievances are legal, nor will the citizen always prevail. That's how it is in any law-abiding nation. The alternatives to abiding the law are all much worse, for the individual and the nation.
Take a look at Somalia to see what happens when anarchy takes over and it's every man for himself. No one ever wins in a state of anarchy.
Yeehawdist explains how it's all a big misunderstanding, he was just borrowing a government vehicle.
Also, he's waived his right to a lawyer - he's argued pro se in court before (not surprised) and lost (also not surprised) - his cunning plan apparently hinges on the idea that without a lawyer, the court will go easier on him.
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Medenbach, 62, signed off on the waiver, despite repeated efforts by U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown to discourage him.
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"As a pro se litigator, I'm not held to as strict standards as an attorney would be,'' Medenbach said.
That was pretty good, and without too much bias. I hope people will take the time to read it.
It's really sad that the actions of a few people with their own agendas escalated what Ammon Bundy, and LaVoy Finicum wanted to be a peaceful protest, that would come to a quick, and peaceful resolution.
That was pretty good, and with too much bias. I hope people will take the time to read it.
It's really sad that the actions of a few people with their own agendas escalated what Ammon Bundy, and LaVoy Finicum wanted to be a peaceful protest, that would come to a quick, and peaceful resolution.
Ammon's idea of a "resolution" was turning over the refuge to a hand-picked "Committee" that Ammon himself personally organized before he took Malheur over. He had no legal authority to do that except in his own delusional mind. You can commend Ammon and LaVoy all you want, but it doesn't take away from the fact that they oversaw a forceable, armed occupation of a government facility and attempted to take the law into their own hands and remake it to suit their own purposes.
The blogger at the very end calls it correctly:
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"As far as I could see, his authority was unchallenged, no matter the wide diversity of opinions, temperaments, and ideological viewpoints he confronted. He may have been the glue holding it all together.
Which makes him singularly responsible for everything that is happening right now, and for everything that might happen before this is over. He is the undisputed leader of this misguided adventure. He owns it."
Add to that his actions in Nevada a few years earlier--for which Ammon is going to probably spend the rest of his life in prison--and these guys are anything but praiseworthy.
It's really sad that the actions of a few people with their own agendas escalated what Ammon Bundy, and LaVoy Finicum wanted to be a peaceful protest, that would come to a quick, and peaceful resolution.
You don't get to say you'll shoot at people who come to turn you out of property that isn't yours, then claim the banner of "peaceful protest". Nor do you get to stalk officials' families.
Anyway, what peaceful resolution would they have accepted?
First, it was about the Hammonds, but the Hammonds told them to eff off.
Then they wanted control of the entire wildlife reserve, and they were told that wasn't happening.
Then they said they'd leave if the locals wanted them out. Big surprise: The locals wanted them out. They didn't leave. Sheriff Ward even offered them safe passage out of the county, several times.
Then they appealed to the nation, who sent them sex toys.
Then they built a road. Did anyone ever figure out what that was about? There was also some fence cutting to neighboring farmer - who didn't want his fence cut.
Then there was the "Constitutional Judge" who wanted to issue arrest warrants for a number of public officials.
I could list more, the point is:they were given every chance to realize they'd goofed and leave. They didn't, they chose to stay and crank the crazy to 11.
So - looking at their completely deranged grab-bag of mixed signals, can you tell what sort of "peaceful resolution" did they have in mind - except possibly "We want this land, give it to us"?
That was pretty good, and without too much bias. I hope people will take the time to read it.
It's really sad that the actions of a few people with their own agendas escalated what Ammon Bundy, and LaVoy Finicum wanted to be a peaceful protest, that would come to a quick, and peaceful resolution.
And yet they were offered a peaceful resolution from the beginning when the sheriff asked them to leave, but they refused. They were asked repeatedly by the local citizens to go home, and they refused.
They didn't want a peaceful resolution they wanted all federal lands handed over to ranchers and miners, or to the people, or to the state depending on the day and who you asked. They didn't even know what they wanted, and didn't understand that most states don't want and can not afford to maintain the land if they were offered it.
And yet they were offered a peaceful resolution from the beginning when the sheriff asked them to leave, but they refused. They were asked repeatedly by the local citizens to go home, and they refused.
They didn't want a peaceful resolution they wanted all federal lands handed over to ranchers and miners, or to the people, or to the state depending on the day and who you asked. They didn't even know what they wanted, and didn't understand that most states don't want and can not afford to maintain the land if they were offered it.
Perhaps they had been spoonfed Mr. Jefferson's quote for so long they forgot to think twice regarding:
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.
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