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Old 02-13-2016, 02:10 AM
 
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........If you look at the country you will generally notice that many of the well respected universities are in the North East and California. There are others scattered about, but fewer are in the south.....

Were those highly esteemed institutions founded and funded by people who, if they came back to life, would relate to today's progressive's beliefs and actions?

How would Yale's founders, or even their 19th century benefactors, feel about the New Haven, CT of 2015?

 
Old 02-13-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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So I am making a generalization that many people can see is generally true. Conservatives tend to be more competitive while liberals more fair-minded. Just look at their tax policies and generally that is what they talk about. When it comes to jobs, conservatives are competitive and what to have a growing economy. But there is one leg that conservatives generally miss - education.

If you look at the country you will generally notice that many of the well respected universities are in the North East and California. There are others scattered about, but fewer are in the south. Sure the Research triangle is great, but there isn't a whole lot of respect for conservative education standards.

So why not? Why don't conservatives get competitive? You know that employers want to hire the best talent. Why don't you take that seriousness that you have about tax policy to the education realm and try to kick ass in the education sphere?
This diatribe is so lacking in "logic" and full of B.S., it isn't worth any more response then this.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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Conservatives are very supportive of competition when it comes to schools. In primary and secondary education, conservatives are big supporters of charter schools, which are in fact public schools that provide competitive alternatives to traditional public schools, so that people have a choice for their children in education, especially in underprivileged areas, where schools tend to be especially poor.

Of course in these schools, parents generally have to make a commitment to rigorous curriculum, as these schools are focused on achievement and not just providing the parents with free childcare services until the children get old enough to drop out and join a gang or get arrested and thrown in jail.

In any case, charter schools are VERY popular in the inner cities and tend to have long waiting lists to get in. The reason there are not more of them is largely because Democrats oppose the COMPETITION for the traditional public schools, which tend to employ union labor (teachers). These unions and their priorities have been demonstrated to be more important to the Democrats than the well-being of the students consistently over many years now. Charter schools provide parents a choice, which Democrats largely hate and oppose.

Conservatives support this choice though, in no small part because of the competition it provides and the improvements in education that tend to come from that.
It's really not a fair competition when you only take the best kids and require parental support...something public schools are not allowed to do. It's not fair when you charters send kids with behavior issues or aren't learning fast enough back to public schools. It's also not fair when charters take very few special needs and ELLs. The only reason conservatives currently support this is because they want schools privatized and charter schools are privately run. Unfortunately, many democrats are supporting this scam.

Parents already have a choice: move, private, homeschool, or get involved with local school. Most of us opt for the last one. As a public school parent, I don't want to see my kids' school defunded in order to give tax money to private companies to run a school without public oversight. Nor do I think anyone should get a private education on the taxpayer's dime. Finally, I can't stand that people say charters do better when all they do is stack their schools with cooperative kids and avoid the difficult kids.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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This diatribe is so lacking in "logic" and full of B.S., it isn't worth any more response then this.
Leftists are terminally stupid, but they think they're smart.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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Liberals are more weak minded, but you were close.
Conservatives are actually weaker minded because study after study has proven they are less intelligent and less educated than liberals.

Conservatives are more animalistic and react strongly to negative feelings like fear while liberals have more ability to rationally and logically reason, coming to the best possible conclusioma.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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So I am making a generalization that many people can see is generally true. Conservatives tend to be more competitive while liberals more fair-minded. Just look at their tax policies and generally that is what they talk about. When it comes to jobs, conservatives are competitive and what to have a growing economy. But there is one leg that conservatives generally miss - education.

If you look at the country you will generally notice that many of the well respected universities are in the North East and California. There are others scattered about, but fewer are in the south. Sure the Research triangle is great, but there isn't a whole lot of respect for conservative education standards.

So why not? Why don't conservatives get competitive? You know that employers want to hire the best talent. Why don't you take that seriousness that you have about tax policy to the education realm and try to kick ass in the education sphere?
Conservatives tend to support School of Choice, vouchers, Charters...and liberals not as much.

Conservatives support competition in education. At my liberal university that taught me to be a teacher, they emphasized competition is bad and cooperation is good.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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This diatribe is so lacking in "logic" and full of B.S., it isn't worth any more response then this.
This is how to try to sound intelligent while making no argument.

Complete nonsense. Why do people like this even post?
 
Old 02-13-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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So I am making a generalization that many people can see is generally true. Conservatives tend to be more competitive while liberals more fair-minded. Just look at their tax policies and generally that is what they talk about. When it comes to jobs, conservatives are competitive and what to have a growing economy. But there is one leg that conservatives generally miss - education.

If you look at the country you will generally notice that many of the well respected universities are in the North East and California. There are others scattered about, but fewer are in the south. Sure the Research triangle is great, but there isn't a whole lot of respect for conservative education standards.

So why not? Why don't conservatives get competitive? You know that employers want to hire the best talent. Why don't you take that seriousness that you have about tax policy to the education realm and try to kick ass in the education sphere?
Since we've instituted the Department of Education our standing in education compared to the rest of the world has dropped. Conservatives are against the bloated, inefficient, one size fits all Dept of Education.
Why don't you educate yourself before posting nonsense.
 
Old 02-13-2016, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Conservatives are actually weaker minded because study after study has proven they are less intelligent and less educated than liberals.
So it was smart move to re elect a bald faced liar with horrible polices?

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Conservatives are more animalistic and react strongly to negative feelings like fear while liberals have more ability to rationally and logically reason, coming to the best possible conclusioma.
So doing the same over and over again but expecting different results is rational and logical? On what planet?

conclusioma????????
 
Old 02-13-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Since we've instituted the Department of Education our standing in education compared to the rest of the world has dropped. Conservatives are against the bloated, inefficient, one size fits all Dept of Education.
Why don't you educate yourself before posting nonsense.
Sad that your states are doing so poorly that you have to justify it by making excuses. Too bad that you are in the party that is still debating how old the universe is.
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