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Right wing politics rely on ignorance. Education is the enemy.
You can't sell economic voodoo to people who know about history or people who can look at a chart and understand what it means.
You can't sell mind-blowingly stupid foreign policy to people who have a basic understanding of world events.
You can't sell anti-science garbage to people who have basic powers of observation and critical thinking skills.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
Since we've instituted the Department of Education our standing in education compared to the rest of the world has dropped. Conservatives are against the bloated, inefficient, one size fits all Dept of Education.
Why don't you educate yourself before posting nonsense.
Oh look, someone who has no idea what the US Department of Education actually does but is nonetheless certain that it's the root of our problems.
Your education failed you. The least you could do is browse Wikipedia and find out what the department actually does before spouting off this nonsense.
This is a very good question, one which opens up a whole realm of other issues. No doubt conservatives would like to wield more influence in education but it tough to do when such a large percentage of top academics are personally liberal in their values. So the question becomes: why are leading academics so left oriented?
Because they mostly come from highly segregated backgrounds, which gives them advantages over others.
Generally speaking, people who want to do well in something generally spend more money in that area.
That's why we have a lot of poverty in the US. We spend a lot of money giving freebie benefits to the poor. We financially incentivize slacking and social parasitism.
Women receiving public assistance, as a group, have a birth rate 3 times higher than women who don't receive public assistance. That, in itself has led to the additional problem of nearly half of all U.S. births being paid for by Medicaid. 70% of those kids will never rise out of poverty, even as adults.
Who thinks supporting all those additional poor people (Medicaid, SNAP, public housing, etc., etc.) that are added to our population every year is sustainable, or even possible at all?
That's why we have a lot of poverty in the US. We spend a lot of money giving freebie benefits to the poor. We financially incentivize slacking and social parasitism.
Women receiving public assistance, as a group, have a birth rate 3 times higher than women who don't receive public assistance. That, in itself has led to the additional problem of nearly half of all U.S. births being paid for by Medicaid. 70% of those kids will never rise out of poverty, even as adults.
Who thinks supporting all those additional poor people (Medicaid, SNAP, public housing, etc., etc.) that are added to our population every year is sustainable, or even possible at all?
By your argument, we should cut defense spending. Spending money is a good thing if it is spent wisely. Efficacy & efficiency are the real arguments not gross amount.
Yet we never hear conservatives say, "We need to cut defense spending, its so wasteful and buys us nothing!"
I'm fine with reforming govt. programs; but all of them, not just liberal ones.
It's really not a fair competition when you only take the best kids and require parental support...something public schools are not allowed to do. It's not fair when you charters send kids with behavior issues or aren't learning fast enough back to public schools. It's also not fair when charters take very few special needs and ELLs. The only reason conservatives currently support this is because they want schools privatized and charter schools are privately run. Unfortunately, many democrats are supporting this scam.
Parents already have a choice: move, private, homeschool, or get involved with local school. Most of us opt for the last one. As a public school parent, I don't want to see my kids' school defunded in order to give tax money to private companies to run a school without public oversight. Nor do I think anyone should get a private education on the taxpayer's dime. Finally, I can't stand that people say charters do better when all they do is stack their schools with cooperative kids and avoid the difficult kids.
The inconvenient truth is that education is not a "right" it is an opportunity and a privilege. You can bring education to students, but you cannot make them learn, or even make them want to learn. The difference is very frequently their parents. As sad and as frustrating as it is to discuss it, without good parents who value learning, most children are not going to be particularly successful students and will not be particularly successful recipients of "education".
Most charter schools are now targeting less privileged communities and areas where public schools tend tend to be flat-out awful. These schools are not taking only the best kids, nor are they dependent on any sort of financial contributions from these children's parents. However, they are dependent on the children being committed to working hard and staying committed to the program of instruction consistently and over the long term.
The parents of these students have to be committed along with the students. For those that are, the don't have to be the "best kids" to succeed. However, without parents who are committed to seeing their children get the best education possible, it is not reasonable to expect the teachers or the government to compensate for the lack of support that children need in order to succeed in school and in life.
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