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I don't think it has anything to do with choice or the competition. I think it's just more funding taken away from public schools which is the problem because it affects the students.
Honestly, why keep blaming schools and teachers for not doing their job. How about blaming students who could care less about getting an education and their parents for not being involved. You can't force someone to learn
A bigger question is why let such students coming from such families drag down those who are motivated and capable of so much more?
The US public school systems' preference in doing so (letting others drag down capable students) has led to this:
Quote:
"This exam, given in 23 countries, assessed the thinking abilities and workplace skills of adults. It focused on literacy, math and technological problem-solving. The goal was to figure out how prepared people are to work in a complex, modern society.
And U.S. millennials performed horribly.
...But surely America’s brightest were on top?
Nope. U.S. millennials with master’s degrees and doctorates did better than their peers in only three countries, Ireland, Poland and Spain.
...The ETS study noted that a decade ago the skill level of American adults was judged mediocre. “Now it is below even that.” So Millennials are falling even further behind."
"Funding has been drastically cut" Details please.
Education is a STATE responsibility.
The only things the Dept of Ed. do is take taxpayer's money and waste it and come out with ridiculous "programs" that have been proved over time to NOT work.
Why not take the money and give it DIRECTLY to the states if you think money is the issue.
Because they think education can only come from one source: their bible. Anything else is a "liberal indoctrination" and they won't have anything to do with it. Meanwhile, the rest of the world goes about its business learning real math and science.
" Meanwhile, the rest of the world goes about its business learning real math and science"
WOW! Talk about pulling information out your arse!
My son when to CATHOLIC high school.
His calculus final exam, which you had to pass in order to graduate, was given to the incomimg Plebes at the Unites States Naval Academy, some of the smartest high school graduates in the country, and ONLY 10 PER CENT passed it.
You clamor about how "smart" liberals and how"dumb" conservatives are then post garbage like this and want to be taken serious.
Well that's good for pa but my state and many others have cut funding. They need to do away with the sat's. Many do poorly on written tests. And it has nothing to do with their intelligence.
Your profile shows you living in Olney, MD.
Hmm
Montgomery County.
Traditionally one of the richest counties in the country.
Run EXCLUSIVELY by liberals, who ALSO control the entire state, (once in a while they will elect a rhino repub but won't let him get anything thing done.)
"but my state and many others have cut funding".
"Democrats Decry Phantom Education Cuts"
"He’s barely been governor long enough for the paint to dry where they stenciled his name on his office door, but Maryland Republican Larry Hogan is already being attacked for trying to slash education funding. It’s a tried and true tactic used by liberals to try and derail any effort by the GOP to bring spending under control. By focusing on education, they paint a picture of a politician who is heartless, who doesn’t care about children and their future. In fact, Hogan, the upset winner in last November’s election in a heavily blue state, is doing no such thing. His administration has proposed spending more on K-12 education than any previous occupant of the governor’s mansion. What he has done is slow the rate of increase so that projected spending will decline by just under $150 million."
Honestly, why keep blaming schools and teachers for not doing their job. How about blaming students who could care less about getting an education and their parents for not being involved. You can't force someone to learn
I agree wholehearted,y with your entire post.
"You can't force someone to learn"
Then why NOT remove those that do NOT want to learn from those who do and put them in a class by themselves as to NOT interfere with kid who are willing to learn.
1 bad apple in a class takes up too much tome for the teacher and is time wasted that can be spent on the "real" students.
Then why NOT remove those that do NOT want to learn from those who do and put them in a class by themselves as to NOT interfere with kids who are willing to learn.
1 bad apple in a class takes up too much time for the teacher and is time wasted that can be spent on the "real" students.
Exactly. I have asked that exact same question, repeatedly, and not one of them can give a valid answer.
The inconvenient truth is that education is not a "right" it is an opportunity and a privilege. You can bring education to students, but you cannot make them learn, or even make them want to learn. The difference is very frequently their parents. As sad and as frustrating as it is to discuss it, without good parents who value learning, most children are not going to be particularly successful students and will not be particularly successful recipients of "education".
Most charter schools are now targeting less privileged communities and areas where public schools tend tend to be flat-out awful. These schools are not taking only the best kids, nor are they dependent on any sort of financial contributions from these children's parents. However, they are dependent on the children being committed to working hard and staying committed to the program of instruction consistently and over the long term.
The parents of these students have to be committed along with the students. For those that are, the don't have to be the "best kids" to succeed. However, without parents who are committed to seeing their children get the best education possible, it is not reasonable to expect the teachers or the government to compensate for the lack of support that children need in order to succeed in school and in life.
There are many inconvenient truths in this theory:
One - whether we want to or not, money needs to be invested in at risk kids and parents long before they even start school. An educated society to whatever extent is beneficial for all. Teaching parents to assist in their kids' educations and addressing the home life factors that hinder their education. Until privatizers want to address issues caused by poverty, blaming schools is ridiculous
Charter schools target low income communities because it's easy to convince them that those schools will be their saviors and politicians aren't likely to listen to low income residents so it's easy to place a charter school even if the community doesn't want one. For those that are enticed, charters will put you on a bus to the capital, give you a T-shirt and sandwich while you lobby for the personal riches of charter CEOs and their hedge fund investors.
Three - charter schools have not proven to be exceptional or even acceptable. Even Waiting For Superman admitted that only one if five charters do as well as traditional schools. Last year Success Academy's first eighth grade class graduated and not one of those students was accepted into one of the specialty magnets while students from those "flat out awful" schools you describe did. In addition, over the years that school had a 34% drop out rate. That's not success at all.
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