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I find this issue kind of ironic because statistically speaking I fully buy into the fact that there is an issue in this country that our jails have an unnaturally high percentage of African Americans residing in them, yet they represent a relatively small percentage of the US population. If you turn that argument around, the logical conclusion is that due to the small percentage of African Americans in the US, they just are not going to represent a huge chunk of an industry specific awards ceremony like this. Being a successful actor/actress in the US to begin with is an incredibly narrow slice of the overall US population, now pull out the 5% (or whatever the actual number is) of that microscopic group to give an award to, and statistically speaking its just not super likely to find a many African Americans being represented at this event.
Now thats not to say there should be zero like we are seeing, but still, just speaking in terms of the math behind it all, its not all that illogical and shouldn't immediately come down to being assumed to be racist issue. I wish as much time was spent on figuring out why the jail system is stacked in that direction though....prisons and incarceration rates as a whole in this country bother me, especially when looked at by the race demographic.
I find this issue kind of ironic because statistically speaking I fully buy into the fact that there is an issue in this country that our jails have an unnaturally high percentage of African Americans residing in them, yet they represent a relatively small percentage of the US population. If you turn that argument around, the logical conclusion is that due to the small percentage of African Americans in the US, they just are not going to represent a huge chunk of an industry specific awards ceremony like this. Being a successful actor/actress in the US to begin with is an incredibly narrow slice of the overall US population, now pull out the 5% (or whatever the actual number is) of that microscopic group to give an award to, and statistically speaking its just not super likely to find a many African Americans being represented at this event.
Now thats not to say there should be zero like we are seeing, but still, just speaking in terms of the math behind it all, its not all that illogical and shouldn't immediately come down to being assumed to be racist issue. I wish as much time was spent on figuring out why the jail system is stacked in that direction though....prisons and incarceration rates as a whole in this country bother me, especially when looked at by the race demographic.
I agree. If the same race biases were used in the Oscar nominee committee as are used by judges and law enforcement, there would be a disproportionate number of black and Latino actors receiving Oscars.
So true. I saw a meme once that summed it up. Halle got one for playing a victim of domestic abuse, Denzel got one for playing a hustler/drug dealer, Whoopi got one for playing a con artist, Monique got one for playing an abusive, drug addicted mother, and Hattie McDaniel for playing a maid.
You see, this is the problem. If there aren't enough black people nominated for awards, you whine. When black people are given awards, you still find a reason to whine. Basically you whine no matter what. That's why I don't understand why anyone ever kowtows to this sort of thing in the first place.
You're right, I did forget Jamie Foxx. But that fact that you can name the exception is the problem.
No the fact that I can name most white oscar winners also play "messed up" roles like Hannibal Lecter, Claus Von Bulow, the guy from Rain Man and a host of others....but others seem to forget that and think it's just black actors winning for jacked up roles IS the problem.
You complain about Berrys winning role? Um, what did Charlize Theron win for? Oh yeah...that's right a real life female serial killer.
It's your business if you want to come off as whining racists but you should at least scroll down the list of ALL the winners before succumbing to internet memes as a basis for ones world view.
We should only value music and movies by their sales numbers
I think part of the reason minorities don't get nominated is because those movies that receive awards are intended for a white audience. Usually some drama in which someone dies or lives a very tragic life and we are supposed to learn some big lesson about life.
I agree. If the same race biases were used in the Oscar nominee committee as are used by judges and law enforcement, there would be a disproportionate number of black and Latino actors receiving Oscars.
Oooohhh!! Trayvon for Hollyood justice! Preach!
Both issues have about the same validity.
What I find funny, and I really do, is that there will be no brakes to all of this hustling.
The train is scheduled to go off of the tracks and ruin what you thought you were on your way to getting and going to get.
You can't stop it. No one can.
It's time to sit back and watch the show.
P.S. If you don't think that the Hollywood elite will run a secret award show that does not include affirmative action, that will carry the real social weight, and let the Oscars devolve into the People's Choice Awards then you have another thing coming.
FFS, didn't the "Economist" already debunk this nonsense?
If you look at recent Oscar history, black winners of Oscars are actually slightly OVER represented as % of their population in this country.
The UNDER representation in Hollywood film is also quite insignificant when it comes to black people.
Since Latino is not a race, I'm not sure if we should even consider their % of representation as a separate group that NEEDS to be counted and compared to everyone else.... But "Latinos" and "Asians" are actually the ones under-represented in Hollywood. BUT, there's also under-representation of those groups in the SAG to begin with.
Depends on the time frame of which you are speaking.
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