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Old 09-04-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by nmnita View Post
I am sure you know as most of us do: that drop was based pretty much on his reaction to McCain. other stuff played a small part, but not like that one incident. I am guessing, unless something more comes up in the next month you will see the polls swing back a bit. Plus let's take a look at what polls you are watching? Remember most lean to the left.
Actually, I think the drop had to do with Manaforte and other legal issues surrounding the president. We have not really seen the reaction to Trump's disgusting treatment of McCain.

And if it is just from McCain, why are the Dems up so much in the generic congressional vote?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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Polls take a bit of time to get caught up with current events. I'm going to guess these polls are more about the recent Cohen/Pecker statements that show that Trump has been lying to the American people about campaign finance violations - or more specifically (since I doubt the average American cares about campaign finance) that he was deceiving the American public about his knowledge about hush money payments to Daniels and McDougal.

possibly. if that is the cause then i'd expect more declines after septeber 10 when the stormy daniels case resumes ( barring another delay till december). avenatti is agressively pushing for depositions from both trump and cohen and will definitely make sure the results are very public.


i could also see the poll results as a more immediate reaction to trump's mccain death response.



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In theory, his base should care that he:
  • lied
  • committed adultery
  • [ idolizes wealth ]
Considering his base is partially evangelicals - .....
they've created the "holy mulligan" which seems to be perpetual and without need of acknowledgement, confession or repentance.
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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It's really funny seeing the Trump fans all of a sudden become fans of polls!


A Trump APPROVED poll.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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Here's what the latest polls show for Trump approval and the generic ballot:


Latest Trump Approvals and Deficits

Gallup 41% (-12%)
Emerson 38% (-15%)
Rasmussen 47% (-4%)
ABC News/Washington Post 38% (-22%)
Economist/YouGov 43% (-9%)
IDB/TIPP 36% (-20%)
USA Today/Suffolk 40% (-16%)
Reuters/IPSOS 40% (-17%)

Current RCP average 41.8% (-12.2%)

Congressional Generic Ballot

Emerson D+13
ABC/WAPO D+14
Economist/YouGov D+6
IBP/TIPP D+11
USA Today D+11
Reuters/IPSO +13

RCP Average D +9.5
Republicans favorite poll is Rasmussen, which uses a methodology that traditionally is skewed Republican.


1. Rasmussen has Trump with a 47% approval or -4% and has Democrats leading the generic ballot by 5%.

2. The Real Clear Politics average of Polls has Trump at 41.8% or -12.8% and the Democrats leading the generic ballot by 9.5%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-6185.html

3. RCP uses a straight average with no adjustment. In the 538 averages, the average bias of the individual pollsters is taken into consideration and averaged out to produce from a mathematical point of view, an objective, unbiased comparison.

Using the 538 formula, Donald Trump has an approval rate of 40.1%, a disapproval of 54.1% for a -14.0%.
Using the same methodology, the generic congressional ballot is now Democrat + 10.8%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...idterms-header

There's roughly 2 months until Election Day and 27 months until Election Day 2020. As 2016 showed, polls and election results can differ, but there is no indication that Trump has gained any voters since he was elected.

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Old 09-04-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Go through the previous posts and you can see the liberal problem. Here are some phrases used:

They have no position, no candidates and no plan. Virtually everyone in America is doing better today than they were 2 years ago and yet they expect us to believe that we have been "grifted" by an "idiot" who has "40% support" and was selected by "The Russians".
It never seems to occur to them that insulting 63 million American voters will not create votes for their party. Indeed, in my own case (I did not vote for Trump) it has resulted in a new resolve to keep the Democrats out of Washington.
No worse than conservatives used for Obama though many were racist. Before you mention how dirty someone else's house is, make sure there isn't crap on your's.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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3. RCP uses a straight average with no adjustment. In the 538 averages, the average bias of the individual pollsters is taken into consideration and averaged out to produce from a mathematical point of view, an objective, unbiased comparison.

for debate i like to use RCP since it's just consistent data. if i was betting on the outcome i'd use 538.
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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Default Trump falls below 40% in poll of polls - c'mon, Trumpies, admit it...you've been had

At this rate soon only 1/3 of the country, the lowest in history (well, it already beats that for a modern POTUS) will "approve" of the 5th grader.

I wonder, at that point, if this tiny minority will still think they are the "right" ones and that 2/3 of the country and 95% of the rest of the world is wrong.

My take is yes...they will. What is yours??

https://fivethirtyeight.com/

39.8% Approve!
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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The only people being had are the ones believing polls lol
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Trump's approval ratings were even lower than this on election day 2016, amiright?
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: NC
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polls?
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