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Old 06-05-2018, 07:07 PM
 
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Rubbish, made up rubbish spouted by trumpers and the MEDIA to protect Trump's feelings.

FOX NEWs as fully 50% of cable news viewers, and they are nothing but a mouthpiece for TRump.

We also have FOX TV and SPECTRUM which DOMINATE all broadcast TV across the USA. They are both staunch supporters of TRUMP.

You have to be joking? RIght?


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-viewers-usa/


The three network evening news shows pull in 22 million viewers nightly. The highest rated Fox News show gets a little more than 2 million. That is not even counting MSNBC which gets similar ratings as fox and CNN who still gets a million watching. Add the late night talk shows, SNL and any other number of left leaning shows and its 98% anti trump.


And what exactly is Spectrum? Never heard of it and I watch all sorts of news from all perspectives. I would think I would know since according to you they are dominating all television.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:09 PM
 
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I don't like Trump and would choose disapprove if given the chance (never been polled about any POTUS).

But Obama bounced along at 40% and the low 40's several times with over 50% disapproval according to Gallup - Link below. Trump is trending up where Obama was at about the same approval rating at this point in his term and was trending down.

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama | Gallup Historical Data & Trends

The problem with the people who really really hate Trump and those who really really like him is a disconnect from reality. Yes Trump has high disaproval in polls. But so did Obama. In fact his average approval rating was the lowest since Jimmy Carter. Nixon had a higher average approval rating than Obama did. And you can't accurately judge how Trump will be overall until he leaves office.

Presidential Approval Ratings | Gallup Historical Statistics and Trends
Obama got The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) passed, with STRONG disapproval from the Repubs. This probably accounted for his low ratings at the time. Plus, Mitch McConnell said on Obama's Inauguration Day that the Republicans in Congress' main objective would then be to "Make Obama a One Term President." Obama constantly had waves of bad publicity from those politicians trying to get rid of him. But you know what, he's going to go down in history as one of our better Presidents.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:09 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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IIRC, he started out his term in office at 45% approval. He has yet to hit that high water mark again.

His disapproval rating has gone from 41% to 53%.

It's a testament to FoxNews that his disapproval rating isn't higher.
Without Fox, Trump may not have won at all. CNN and the others would have had their way and picked our president for us.


God Bless Fox!
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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Obama got The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) passed, with STRONG disapproval from the Repubs. This probably accounted for his low ratings at the time. Plus, Mitch McConnell said on Obama's Inauguration Day that the Republicans in Congress' main objective would then be to "Make Obama a One Term President." Obama constantly had waves of bad publicity from those politicians trying to get rid of him. But you know what, he's going to go down in history as one of our better Presidents.

Every POTUS faces a hostile opposition. The good ones overcome that and succeed. The bad ones use it as an excuse. I would put Obama and Trump in that category.


And what is Obama's legacy? You need to accomplish things that stand the test of time. He did a lot of EO's that are easily repealed. Even Obamacare will be dead soon. It would be like praising FDR for starting social security even if it went away a few years after it was started. People praise him because its still there. Obamacare would have only lasted if another Dem came in right after him to finish the job. That is not good enough.

Trump has managed to erase almost all of what Obama did. The debt can't be erased. That is one thing that will last way into the future.

I would say that Clinton and Reagan were much better Presidents because they worked with congress. And their achievements have lasted. Obama did not even try. Just like Trump now. Just gave up and did EO's. Both bad presidents. Trump has time to salvage his legacy. Not holding my breath.
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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Obama took the country out of the Great Recession that was going on when he took officein 2008. That was a huge accomplishment and saved our economy, and especially the auto industry (General Motors). The housing market tanked in 2006-2007. You must not have owned a home back then. Our home value went down $100,000. Glad we had a President who could steer us back to a good housing market—Barack Obama. Of course, Trump has managed to remove Dodd-Frank, which had protected us until lately, when Trump got rid of it.

Yes, maybe if he had smoozed more with Congress, Obama could have accomplished more, but I doubt it. The Repubs did not want him to have any successes and the racist faction worked against him also. And don’t count Obamacare out. MANY Americans still rely on it for their healthcare. They aren’t aware that The Affordable Care Act is actually Obamacare.

So no, Trump can’t compare to Obama. Trump is only trying to help himself, his buddies and his family. Shame on you for putting Obama in the same class as this fool we have now, Donald Trump.
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Old 06-06-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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Really?

Three words... William the Impeached.

THE CLINTON LEGACY
Haha, you think Trump won’t be impeached? Lololol
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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trump just took a sudden hit on the RCP average with his approval rating dropping more than 2points ( 42.1% ) and disapproval gaining a point ( 53.6% ).

i'm curious what exactly was the catalyst.
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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trump just took a sudden hit on the RCP average with his approval rating dropping more than 2points ( 42.1% ) and disapproval gaining a point ( 53.6% ).

i'm curious what exactly was the catalyst.
Maybe listening to Kim Kardashian?
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Old 06-07-2018, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Haha, you think Trump won’t be impeached? Lololol
What would he be impeached for?
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Rubbish, made up rubbish spouted by trumpers and the MEDIA to protect Trump's feelings.

FOX NEWs as fully 50% of cable news viewers, and they are nothing but a mouthpiece for TRump.

Then you have literally hundreds of other outlets pushing right wing nonsense. right wing radio, Infowars,

and lets not forget DRUDGE, who set the tone for hundreds of outlets...

We also have FOX TV and SPECTRUM which DOMINATE all broadcast TV across the USA. They are both staunch supporters of TRUMP.

So the only way you get 80% is by excluding the majority of right wing media outlets. And the very fact you are spouting 80% and 90% PROVES how strong the right wing media is because it was RIGHT WING media that made those numbers up and got you and others on the right to endless echo them.
Really?

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