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Old 04-11-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Go look at PART III of the law. It declares that state laws on employment and public accommodation discrimination preempts and supersedes local ordinances. That in effect wipes out Charlotte's local law, as well as those in other cities and counties.
Makes me laugh. Shows the Republican mantra for the most local government being the best is a sham.

 
Old 04-11-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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So are you saying we need to have more regulations or less regulations? And here I thought right wingers were against big government trying to tell them what they can and cannot do...
Who is right wing? I'm a pro-choice, pro-marijuana legalization, pro-gay marriage agnostic who voted for Obama twice. But people's intimate spaces are not the place for 0.001% of the population to socially experiment and showering/changing/peeing with women and girls is not a fricking civil right. Your question about the W on a bathroom door stopping a predator is meaningless. My point was that regulations are in place in every aspect of life and in most cases people do follow them. We haven't devolved to the point where most people ignore posted signs, facility managers, or security guard (yet). To answer your question, yes I am for government regulations when it comes to the safety and privacy of citizens!
 
Old 04-11-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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Who is right wing? I'm a pro-choice, pro-marijuana legalization, pro-gay marriage agnostic who voted for Obama twice. But people's intimate spaces are not the place for 0.001% of the population to socially experiment and showering/changing/peeing with women and girls is not a fricking civil right. Your question about the W on a bathroom door stopping a predator is meaningless. My point was that regulations are in place in every aspect of life and in most cases people do follow them. We haven't devolved to the point where most people ignore posted signs, facility managers, or security guard (yet). To answer your question, yes I am for government regulations when it comes to the safety and privacy of citizens!
You say you are all those things, yet you somehow can't comprehend that people don't go around exposing their genitalia to others when they go to the bathroom. A useless regulation that violates a person's rights aren't going to change that.

If you are so concerned about privacy and safety, stop trying to look at other people's genitalia.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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You say you are all those things, yet you somehow can't comprehend that people don't go around exposing their genitalia to others when they go to the bathroom. A useless regulation that violates a person's rights aren't going to change that.

If you are so concerned about privacy and safety, stop trying to look at other people's genitalia.
Really??? No one in America has ever been arrested or convicted for indecent exposure in a bathroom? What an amazing utopia we live in! Our jail cells sit practically empty!

I'll say it again--using the bathroom with women and girls isn't a civil right. Gays deserve equal protection under the law for marriage because the institution grants thousands of rights and privileges, and one married couple interferes in no way on the marriage of another couple.

Great. I supposed we'll be telling that to the 8 year-old girls who we'll force to share a bathroom with a dude. All body parts at all ages stay perfectly taut, still, and covered (and flaccid) while removing clothing, and if the little girl saw something the little B was MUST have been ogling.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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Really??? No one in America has ever been arrested or convicted for indecent exposure in a bathroom? What an amazing utopia we live in! Our jail cells sit practically empty!

I'll say it again--using the bathroom with women and girls isn't a civil right. Gays deserve equal protection under the law for marriage because the institution grants thousands of rights and privileges, and one married couple interferes in no way on the marriage of another couple.

Great. I supposed we'll be telling that to the 8 year-old girls who we'll force to share a bathroom with a dude. All body parts at all ages stay perfectly taut, still, and covered (and flaccid) while removing clothing, and if the little girl saw something the little B was MUST have been ogling.
Hate to break it to you, but exposing yourself to others is already illegal, we don't need more laws for that.

You tell an 8 year old girl the same thing you would tell her if an adult woman came up to her and exposed her vagina to her. It isn't that hard to understand.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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]Does it matter? [/b]Why are they doing business in countries that kill homosexuals? Apple does the same thing. Apparently, money is more important to them than their hypocritical pseudo-morality.
Yes it does matter. Pay Pal isn't saying they won't do business with NC. They are saying they will not open an office there which would have employed hundreds of people. Honestly, companies can pull out of a state if they want. Sorry, if you don't like their explanation, but it's their choice and their right. To try and argue it is moot.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Hate to break it to you, but exposing yourself to others is already illegal, we don't need more laws for that.

You tell an 8 year old girl the same thing you would tell her if an adult woman came up to her and exposed her vagina to her. It isn't that hard to understand.
Yeah, and a man using the women's bathroom is already illegal...and it should stay that way, regardless of whether he has breast implants and is wearing a dress.

You really are clueless about female children aren't you?! You think an 8 year-old girl would have the same reaction to a female adult woman in the lockerroom/restroom as she would with a male? Even a male in there, without exposing his genitals, would be an uncomfortable situation for her. And in case you didn't know, a woman would have to work to expose her actual vagina (not the mons veneris, the front of the pubic bone). Accidental exposures of penises and scrotums are more probably than vaginal exposures, unless doing the splits is part of her locker room routine. Does it offend you that we don't want to see your junk, even if you're not deliberately trying to show it? Get over it.

Either way, you are willing to violate the privacy and safety of women and girls to impose your will, and you make light of the issue of predation. Misogynistic, shameful, disgusting.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Yeah, and a man using the women's bathroom is already illegal...and it should stay that way, regardless of whether he has breast implants and is wearing a dress.

You really are clueless about female children aren't you?! You think an 8 year-old girl would have the same reaction to a female adult woman in the lockerroom/restroom as she would with a male? Even a male in there, without exposing his genitals, would be an uncomfortable situation for her. Either way, you are willing to violate the privacy and safety of women and children to impose your will, and make light of the issue of predation. Misogynistic, shameful, disgusting.
And this law REQUIRES FTM trans men to use the ladies room. So little Suzie will be in the ladies locker room/restroom with a bald, tatted, body builder that was born a woman but now appears to be a man.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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Yeah, and a man using the women's bathroom is already illegal...and it should stay that way, regardless of whether he has breast implants and is wearing a dress.

You really are clueless about female children aren't you?! You think an 8 year-old girl would have the same reaction to a female adult woman in the lockerroom/restroom as she would with a male? Even a male in there, without exposing his genitals, would be an uncomfortable situation for her. Either way, you are willing to violate the privacy and safety of women and children to impose your will, and make light of the issue of predation. Misogynistic, shameful, disgusting.


A transgender male would most likely dress as a woman since that's who he identifies with. So no one in the bathroom would know. And there are stalls so who would see the genitals. And here we go again with the predators. This law will do nothing to prevent predators. They don't need to dress as the opposite sex as some like to think they would
 
Old 04-11-2016, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Only in America is someone using the "wrong" bathroom a safety concern, but walking around with an AR15 on your back in a supermarket, just peachy.
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