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Old 04-09-2016, 04:32 PM
 
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Stupid. Just stupid.

The rougher areas need to be cleaned up 1st, then maybe the decent people can start fixing up their own hoods.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Stupid. Just stupid.

The rougher areas need to be cleaned up 1st, then maybe the decent people can start fixing up their own hoods.
Step #1: Just as when other feral animals become a nuisance, implement a spay and neuter program. Mandatory sterilization for those receiving taxpayer-funded sustenance and for those convicted of criminal activities. The problems will be all but gone in a generation or two.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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So to attempt to fix the inner city problems, let's just spread them into the wealthier neighborhoods.


We should be trying to bring the bottom up, not bringing those on top down. This country is so backwards.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I honestly don't see the problem if they do it in an actually wealthy neighborhood instead of a middle class neighborhood were the neighborhood can actually turn into a ghetto. If they do it in a wealthy neighborhood Detroit can't happen because the neighborhood is just to expensive, and high class to depreciate into a ghetto, You can't make a 6 bedroom, $500,000 or more neighborhood affordable for guys in the hood, but you can certainly make a neighborhood that averages around $200,000-250,000 per house go ghetto as overtime the house will depreciate and lower the price into affordability. Story of the Alief neighborhood, it isn't the hood but most of it is lower middle class and a few parts are downright scary. The article tried to basically say that only white people live in wealthy Baltimore neighborhoods. I myself live in a "wealthy" neighborhood and their is definitely not only white people here, my neighborhood is probably 20-40% minorities easy, mostly Asians (Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Filipino etc.) and Hispanics, though as the few blacks are African like me. We also have a lot of European gals and lads who work for oil companies but maybe in Baltimore most of the wealthy people are white.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:07 PM
 
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Step #1: Just as when other feral animals become a nuisance, implement a spay and neuter program. Mandatory sterilization for those receiving taxpayer-funded sustenance and for those convicted of criminal activities. The problems will be all but gone in a generation or two.
...but, but, but you'd ruin the #1 ghetto industry; birthing illegitimate children.

Those kids bring in big bucks.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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This is what I see going on. There are those not involved in crime trying to get out of those rough areas. Many can't afford to do so. The ones that find the resources to leave will leave, and never come back. One reason cleaning up those areas is such a hard task is that the persons most likely to do the cleaning up are the ones who want so badly to leave. The ones who can't afford it, but want somewhere safer to leave, they would benefit from affordable housing in safer areas. I wonder what the value of screening for criminal records would be.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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So to attempt to fix the inner city problems, let's just spread them into the wealthier neighborhoods.


We should be trying to bring the bottom up, not bringing those on top down. This country is so backwards.
Well this is not nothing new. It happened in DC spreading low income people into the surrounding counties as the inner city becomes gentrified.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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This is not nothing new. It happened in DC spreading low income people into the surrounding counties so the inner city gets gentrified.
It's happening in Atlanta too. After the housing projects were torn down, many of those particular residents went into nearby counties, like Clayton and DeKalb. With gentrification taking place in Atlanta, alot of low income residents are also going into Cobb County, as well as Douglas County. And now even some of the inner ring towns, like Marietta and Smyna, are gentrifying. Low income residents from those areas are being spread into other counties. Low income residents spreading around the suburban areas is nothing new.

I look at it like this. If there are old apartment complexes in your town, low income residents will be there. The only guaranteed way to prevent low income residents from moving into an area is to set up gated towns where you have to register your income and prove you're high income, and for those towns to make renting illegal.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:41 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Westchester was first, HUD used it as their beta test site in NY.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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This is how I assess this situation. Anyone can be low income. Anyone who is low income can get Section 8. I'm going to call it as I see it. This is about poor Black residents going to wealthier White areas. I don't think this would be seen as an issue if it was poor Whites going into wealthier White areas. Or at the very least, it would be looked at as strictly a low income issue and not a race issue. I notice from the same naysayers of this program, very little said about gentrification. When low income residents can no longer afford to rent where they once did, silence from said individuals.

When it comes to things like Section 8, I don't think about race, until I see articles bringing up terms like "wealthy Whites" and "diversify". Maybe it's because diversity has not been something I've been afraid of. I know I could get killed easily in a homogeneous area. I work near neighborhoods that aren't diverse and I wouldn't live in them. Being homogeneous does not mean safety.
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