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Old 06-14-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
They didn't need box cutters, because criminals do not obey gun laws.

What part of this is so confusing to you?
Why do we have laws if they don't work anyway?

 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by thecoalman View Post
LOL, a safe that requires a quarter million dollar piece of equipment to break into it is not adequate for you.
Sure it is, since it would stop the vast majority of gun thefts. Just b/c an excavator was used to break into the safe, doesn't mean the law is broken.

I think you're under the impression that the purpose of this is to make gun owner feel lovey dovey about their guns being protected. It's not. It's about stopping the flow of guns into the black market, and punishing the owners of any guns that do end up there.

It doesn't matter if you're not responsible enough to safe guard your guns, or you're fanatic enough to have too big an arsenal to properly secure all of them, or if you're just so unlucky that the quality safe you bought was broken into w/ an excavator b/c the end result is the same -- guns flowing into the black market.

It's time to start holding the people who are responsible, liable.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Neither do I see background checks as a requirement for gun purchases either.
So... where's the problem in eliminating background checks for a Second Amendment right?

No background checks for the right to vote = no background checks for the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:33 AM
 
Location: MS
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
More intensive background checks along with longer waiting periods. In addition, gun shows, as the Al-Qaeda leader encouraged his followers to go to in this video, should no longer be allowed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTSj3ouWOM
What more do you want to add to the 4473? https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

What waiting period? It took me approximately 15 minutes to buy my last gun retail.

A seller at a gun show still follows the same federal and state laws. What reason do you provide for outlawing them?
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
They didn't need box cutters, because criminals do not obey gun laws.

What part of this is so confusing to you?
Because the, "can kill with cars, box cutters, etc... argument is deflection from the lethal nature of guns, nothing more.





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Old 06-14-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: MS
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
How many people do you think Omar could have killed in that night club using a box cutter?
He could have killed them all with a gallon of gas and 2 chains.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
So... where's the problem in eliminating background checks for a Second Amendment right?

No background checks for the right to vote = no background checks for the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
Oh boy! Do terrorists ever love you, but they will kill you anyway!
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Do ya think there might be more murders, robberies, theft, etc.....if we had no laws?
Wow, you still can't apply logic can you?

Gun laws outlaw a tool not act. Laws against murdering someone are about an act.

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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Listen to the Al-Qaeda leader in the above posted video. See what he is talking about. You need to listen to his instructions to terrorists on how they can so get a gun so easily in the US. What more do you need to know?
He might as well have said his followers should use a 3D printer to make themselves a stinger missile, because it would be just as factually accurate.

Nobody can purchase a gun from a vendor at a gun show without an ID and background check. That is a FACT.

Sure, you can go to a gun show and buy a fully automatic weapon from a person selling it in a parking lot, which is illegal, but that is just an illegal sell that no law will fix.

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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
What percentage guns used in gun crimes started as legal purchases?
I don't know, nor is it really that relevant.

Out of all the tons of cocaine that happen each week, how much of that cocaine started off as a legal purchase?

Make all guns illegal like cocaine and they'll still be sold illegally just like cocaine.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Robert_J View Post
He could have killed them all with a gallon of gas and 2 chains.
You are correct. But liberals, not being logical thinkers, will never understand that. They react emotionally, not rationally.
 
Old 06-14-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Oh boy! Do terrorists ever love you, but they will kill you anyway!
They'll also vote against my best interest. No background check required for the right to vote.
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