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Old 06-18-2016, 09:38 PM
 
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NPR covered Martin Luther King's move to take the Civil Rights Movement to the north(Chicago).


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Fifty years ago, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. moved with his family to Chicago, where he was to spend a year laying the groundwork for bringing the civil rights movement to the North. The campaign came to be known as the Chicago Freedom Movement — a broadening drive against segregation, which was often as thorough in practice in the northern states as in the South, especially when it came to housing.

Martin Luther King Jr. In Chicago: See Rare Color Photographs Of The Chicago Freedom Movement : NPR

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Old 06-18-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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It wasn't anywhere CLOSE to being as bad as it was down south. That's not to say that it wasn't problematic, but anyone trying to compare Cleveland or New York to cities in Mississippi or Alabama, they're nuts.

Black folks know better. Our family told us the stories.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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I feel that the type of racism found in the north back then kinda reflects the type of racism found around America today. Northern racism compared to southern racism was more covert. That's how racism is in America today,more covert. Discrimination in America today is rarely done in an obvious old southern way but behind the back northern style in various ways(Redlining etc).
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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It wasn't anywhere CLOSE to being as bad as it was down south. That's not to say that it wasn't problematic, but anyone trying to compare Cleveland or New York to cities in Mississippi or Alabama, they're nuts.

Black folks know better. Our family told us the stories.
Yeah that's basically true. But it's also interesting that most of the 60's race riots happened outside the south(Watts,Detroit,Newark) with most being triggered by heavy handed policing in those Black communities there. Then you had the Panthers starting in Oakland in response to the bad policing there in Black areas.
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Old 06-19-2016, 05:29 AM
 
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Pittsburgh didn't escape the Civil Rights Era without race riots and struggles with school desegregation. Some members of my mother's family moved to the city in the 1960's and experienced the riots firsthand. It was an awful time in United States history. I wasn't alive then, but I watch the events unfold on You Tube.
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Old 06-19-2016, 06:30 AM
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Documenting the American South: Oral Histories of the American South

Northern and southern reactions to the civil rights movement
Young explains what he perceives as the differences between race relations in the South and those in the North. According to Young, northern whites were more reluctant to accept change because they had yet to confront their own racism. Ultimately, Young believes that race relations were slower to change in the North than in the South because the North was segregated geographically, whereas the South was primarily segregated legally. Because southern whites had lived with African Americans in their midst for generations, Young believes that southern whites had a greater sense of guilt about their racism and racial discrimination. As a result, Young argues that many southern whites were quick to support the civil rights movement—support which he believes was essential to the success of the civil rights movement. His views, here, offer an interesting perspective on southern white reactions to changing race relations during the 1950s and 1960s and offers a counterpoint to views that emphasize white racial hostility and visceral opposition to desegregation.

Andy Young always said the north was more violent than the south.

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Old 06-19-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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Pittsburgh didn't escape the Civil Rights Era without race riots and struggles with school desegregation. Some members of my mother's family moved to the city in the 1960's and experienced the riots firsthand. It was an awful time in United States history. I wasn't alive then, but I watch the events unfold on You Tube.
I didn't know that about Pittsburgh. It sounds like what happened in Boston in the 70's.
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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I wonder what King would have experienced had he gone to NYC instead of Chicago back then?
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It wasn't anywhere CLOSE to being as bad as it was down south. That's not to say that it wasn't problematic, but anyone trying to compare Cleveland or New York to cities in Mississippi or Alabama, they're nuts.

Black folks know better. Our family told us the stories.
Blacks faced extreme housing and employment discrimination in the North. Terrible stuff but not the setting of say " To Kill a Mocking Bird".
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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Riots happened in Portland and San Francisco too. Birmingham, Alabama had a riot in 1963. Atlanta had a riot in 1966. Tampa too. Violence erupted during the Memphis Sanitation Workers Strike in 1968. The South had its share of urban riots. It is also more fitting to consider that more people in the South didn't live in big cities.
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