Do you feel there needs to be a reform with welfare programs in the US? (illegal, health care)

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

Absolutely!

Two facets need to be shut down or rolled back severely:

1) Corporate welfare - no more pumping up private profits at taxpayer expense.

2) Long term, generational welfare. Give a hand up, not a lifetime handout.

Could you name a corporate welfare?

[OpanaPointer]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

No reform, elimination. All state welfare schemes are based on theft and redistribution.

GOP what you did there.

[nurider2002]

Here is my issue with welfare; the current system fosters dependency. Many single women work be happy to get an education or a job that pays a living wage if they could afford child care. But for many, the cost of child care outweighs the salary they would bring home with limited education and job skills. Welfare needs to address the problems that keep people out of the workforce; for some that is childcare costs, for others - drug abuse; and for far too many, lack of education and marketable job skills. Provide programs for folks that address these issues and then a time limited financial assistance. That way, our tax dollars are going toward eliminating the root causes of unemployment and toward enabling people to become self sufficient.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

How about we 3 strike them. Three misdemeanors and you are cut off for a length of time.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

Absolutely!

Two facets need to be shut down or rolled back severely:

1) Corporate welfare - no more pumping up private profits at taxpayer expense.

2) Long term, generational welfare. Give a hand up, not a lifetime handout.

Yes, let's get rid of corporate welfare. Get rid of business tax and don't give businesses a dime of our tax money. Nice and simple.

[irspow]

"Social programs" are nothing more than "legalized" theft and extortion by the thug government. If we were a moral nation, the government would offer services just like any other business. Forcing people to buy services, regardless of an individual wanting or receiving said "services", is by definition theft, extortion, and indeed racketeering. (As government cannot offer that which it has not first stolen from the people.)

No sane person has any problem with groups voluntarily forming collectivist "services". However, no sane person believes that collectivists have a right to enslave others to pay for these services with aggression either.

[RunD1987]

I could support free childcare

[Taratova]

Illegals are taking more welfare than American citizens.. this has to stop.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ca...article/259074






Illegal immigrant households receive an average of $5,692 in federal welfare benefits every year, far more than the average "native" American household, at $4,431, according to a new report on the cost of immigration released Monday.
The Center for Immigration Studies, in an analysis of federal cost figures, found that all immigrant-headed households — legal and illegal — receive an average of $6,241 in welfare, 41 percent more than native households. As with Americans receiving benefits such as food stamps and cash, much of the welfare to immigrants supplements their low wage jobs.

The total cost is over $103 billion in welfare benefits to households headed by immigrants. A majority, 51 percent, of immigrant households receive some type of welfare compared to 30 percent of native households, said the analysis of Census data.
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Immigrants receiving the most in the study of 2012 figures come from Mexico and Central America. Their average annual taxpayer funded welfare collection is $8,251, 86 percent higher than the benefits used by native households, said the report.

"While it is important for Americans to understand the rate of welfare use among immigrants, expressing that use in dollar terms offers a more tangible metric that is tied to current debates over fiscal policy. With the nation facing a long-term budgetary deficit, this study helps illuminate immigration's impact on the problem," wrote the report's author Jason Richwine, a Harvard educated analyst of immigration data.
The new report follows another that found President Obama seeking $17,613 for every new illegal minor, more than Social Security retirees get.


Also from the Washington Examiner
06/30/16 5:00 AM



Richwine noted that illegal immigrants are barred from directly receiving welfare, but instead get it via their legal children. "Illegal immigrants are barred from directly accessing most (though not all) welfare programs, but they can receive welfare through their U.S.-born children. Legal immigrant households, which have greater eligibility for welfare, cost $6,378 on average," he wrote.
The key findings:
— The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.
— The average immigrant household consumes 33 percent more cash welfare, 57 percent more food assistance, and 44 percent more Medicaid dollars than the average native household. Housing costs are about the same for both groups.
— At $8,251, households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico have the highest welfare costs of any sending region — 86 percent higher than the costs of native households.

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[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

I could support free childcare

So, you are volunteering to take care of children for free?

[tinytrump]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Anybody on welfare should be
1. Barred from voting,
2. Prohibited from having children or any children should be immediately put up for adoption until they can prove they can support their children without government aids, and
3. Their parents' money should be used before any taxpayer's money.

you do know many welfare and food stamp recipients are our militray vets dont you?