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Old 08-27-2016, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Wrong .. the Supremes have held them constitutional.
Wrong. I never said anything about the Supremes. They are wrong. Legally, they have the right to interpret the constitution anyway they choose and they frequently choose to expand the power of governments. But that doesn't make it right. It just makes it legal for now.

Also, the fifth amendment clearly supports your right to not answer LEO questions and be silent and that would include at these immoral sobriety checkpoints.
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Please don't listen to internet lawyer advice..it's generally wrong. Anything from free thought project is suspect upon its face
Oh, but I should listen to some internet message board cop who clearly likes to increase government power?
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:01 AM
 
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I don't drink so I don't care.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:08 AM
 
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They are unconstitutional and assume you are guilty until you prove you are innocent. These young boys did the right thing.
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"They are unconstitutional"

It NEVER cease to amaze me how some on just come out and make statements as if THEY know what they are talking about and then when we investigate their great claim we find them WRONG.

"The Supreme Court has found that sobriety checkpoints are a minor infraction of the 4th Amendment but that the state's interest in preventing drunk driving, and the effectiveness of sobriety checkpoints in meeting this state interest, outweigh the minor 4th Amendment infraction. The sobriety checkpoint has to be conducted properly, but if so then it's considered constitutional. The case is from 1990, Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz.


https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...XAP8AUzQnnIlQ;

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"Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz, 496 U.S. 444 (1990), was a United States Supreme Court case involving the constitutionality of police sobriety checkpoints. By a vote of 6-3, the Court held that these checkpoints met the Fourth Amendment standard of "reasonable search and seizure."


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Old 08-27-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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"They are unconstitutional"

It NEVER cease to amaze me how some on just come out and make statements as if THEY know what they are talking about and then when we investigate their great claim we find them WRONG.

"The Supreme Court has found that sobriety checkpoints are a minor infraction of the 4th Amendment but that the state's interest in preventing drunk driving, and the effectiveness of sobriety checkpoints in meeting this state interest, outweigh the minor 4th Amendment
is this like being a little pregnant?
Looks like the supremes agree that they are unconstitutional, but once deemed for the greater good,constitutionality goes out the window. So much for checks and balances huh?

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Old 08-27-2016, 06:18 AM
 
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Former chief justice William Rehnquist admitted that the checkpoints violate the 4th amendment but he said it`s only a small violation and it`s in the interest of public safety. I disagree with him but as long as the door is open perhaps we have another amendment or two that we can take a closer look at...in the interest of public safety of course.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: DC
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They are unconstitutional and assume you are guilty until you prove you are innocent. These young boys did the right thing.
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Good way to lose your license to drive, which incidentally is not a constitutional right.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:30 AM
 
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Good way to lose your license to drive, which incidentally is not a constitutional right.
Neither is home ownership, but "unreasonable search and siezure" still applies.
The govt should surrender its monopoly on the road system.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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People who are against the check points need to talk to family members of people who have died as a result of a drunk driver. Because if it were not for check points you'd see a lot more fatal DUI's.
wow. Using that logic we should ban cars and save 25,000 lives per year.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Good way to lose your license to drive, which incidentally is not a constitutional right.
That is meaningless. Eating yogurt is not a constitutional right either.
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