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True, just 5 unelected and lifetime appointed judges can override the Executive, the Legislature and the vote and will of the American people combined, not to mention every other judges in the Judiciary. All based on claiming, the constitution means and doesn't mean what they say it means, just because THEY SAY SO!
It was never the intent of the constitution for the supreme court to be a super-supreme-legislator.
This is happening because we allow it. Last year when the gay marriage was legislated from the supreme court our state governors simply obeyed it. If there was ever a time to stand up and defy this kind of illegal action it was last year after that edict was passed down. However no such thing occurred and the Rhino governors were too scared to stand up. The people of the conservative states would have backed them up and they would be heros today but....... instead they just went bhaaa bhaaa just like the rest of us sheeple. I guess we have as a society accepted the power they have assumed for themselves, so when they rule we obey. Do we need a President or a Congress?? are they not just a waste of money if these 5 people really rule our land.
I agree, social change shouldn't be done through the judiciary, but through the legislature. And if you want to change the original meaning of the constitution it should have to be amended. I don't personally think the government or any branch of the government especially at the federal level should be so involved with social/cultural change and issues.
Congratulations England you all won after all. Our political system is no different from 1776. We let people called supreme court justices say, this is what you need to believe, like it or not.
Didn't you know? There is always one central point of final arbitration in any society. You can't avoid it.
True, just 5 unelected and lifetime appointed judges can override the Executive, the Legislature and the vote and will of the American people combined, not to mention every other judges in the Judiciary. All based on claiming, the constitution means and doesn't mean what they say it means, just because THEY SAY SO!
It was never the intent of the constitution for the supreme court to be a super-supreme-legislator.
Some legal body has to have the final say-so. The Constitution declared it would be the Supreme Court. That's how it is.
Live with it or move away.
Sniveling about it won't change a thing. Never has, and never will, and you are not the first to complain by a long shot. Feel free to start an amendment if it's so important to you; that's how it's done here, and the last was approved in 1992. It took 202 years, 7 months and 12 days to reach approval, so you had better get busy if you are serious.
Otherwise, find something else that's more productive to complain about. Griping is real easy, action is always harder.
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I agree, social change shouldn't be done through the judiciary, but through the legislature. And if you want to change the original meaning of the constitution it should have to be amended. I don't personally think the government or any branch of the government especially at the federal level should be so involved with social/cultural change and issues.
Sorry you're upset that the constitution applies equally to everyone. Perhaps you could move somewhere else?
The country is specifically set up so that the will of the majority doesn't override the rights of the minority. Or in the case case of gay marriage, so that the will of an extremely motivated large minority doesn't override the rights of another minority or the will of a somewhat less motivated (or powerless thanks to vastly unequal representation) majority.
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Congratulations England you all won after all. Our political system is no different from 1776. We let people called supreme court justices say, this is what you need to believe, like it or not.
Are you referring to some decision in particular? It would be very helpful to me, and I can only speak for myself, if you could provide more specifics because it is not immediately obvious how today's SCOTUS resembles what the Revolutionaries objected to. Please explain.
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Case precedence is an attack on this country, its very purpose is to dismiss the past in favor of molding the future and it is a mob like scheme to ignore the basis of our founding.
Huh? How can "case precedence," an honored trend in jurisprudence that pre-dates any current quibbles with the judiciary, constitute an "attack?" And, for that matter, how can "case precedence" really do anything at all without some human agent? Faulty predication, anyone?
No Judge should ever be appointed for life. They are insulated from the realities of life.
Think about it. Could it be possible that was the intent of the founding fathers?
If so, then they were mistaken, as no one is ever insulated from life's realities. The Justices have their marital problems, bills to pay, kids, family dogs, illnesses, doubt, worries, victories and defeats, just like the rest of us have.
Their take on life's realities is probably different from yours, but they aren't insulated in any way. In fact, they are more aware of the consequences, intended or unintended, of their actions far more than most of us are. That's because every decision they make will affect someone, or lots of someones, in either good or bad ways.
They don't spend their life locked up behind their chamber doors. Believing otherwise is simple-midnded and/or juvenile. They show up in the morning and go home in the evening just like the rest of us do, with our jobs and in our lives.
Congratulations England you all won after all. Our political system is no different from 1776. We let people called supreme court justices say, this is what you need to believe, like it or not.
Huh?? If you think it's bad now, just wait till Hillary is president (IF she becomes president). By the way, there was no Supreme Court until 1789.
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