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Old 09-25-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
The idea that the police can do whatever they want has to stop.
You're only half correct. Just add the word people and you'd be fully correct.

 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
That's fast becoming the new normal in our "everyone has a camcorder in their pocket" society.

People now expect and demand video evidence and if there is none then it didn't happen.

There is a reason for that. For years the police were allowed to lie without any repercussions.

Why was Timothy Loehman permitted to lie and get away with it?

If you want this sort of action to no longer be automatic you have to insist that the police be truthful in all cases or face repercussions.

Video is starting to make that happen in some cases (Bland) but not all so far (Loehman). We have to have faith our justice system is always truthful and we do not have that.
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They had no idea who he was before shooting him.
What makes you think they didn't run his plates?
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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As far as they knew he was legally carrying that gun. I believe the reasoning they came up with to defend their actions are a lie.
Why do you think the victim raised his pant leg? (seen at 00:20) on video
Amid pressure, Charlotte police release videos in shooting of Keith Lamont Scott
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They are pretty incompetent if they are unable to determine this by now.
This will all come out in either the official report, or any subsequent lawsuits regarding this shooting.

Don't underestimate the fact that the CMPD might not want to make it appear as if all Blacks are felons.
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Define acting strange and why does a cop need to shoot someone for acting strange. NC is open carry, so if he had a gun so what.
Open carry may be legal but one would be a damn fool not to drop it if asked to by police.
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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What makes you think they didn't run his plates?
You know the plates are in his name? You ever been in a car with plates that were not yours?
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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Why do you think the victim raised his pant leg? (seen at 00:20) on video
Amid pressure, Charlotte police release videos in shooting of Keith Lamont Scott
That's illegal?
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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This will all come out in either the official report, or any subsequent lawsuits regarding this shooting.

Don't underestimate the fact that the CMPD might not want to make it appear as if all Blacks are felons.
It will. In the case in Cleveland where Tamir Rice was killed we learned the report filed by the police and initially pushed by the police was a lie.

Why was no one personally held accountable for those lies?
 
Old 09-25-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
There is a reason for that. For years the police were allowed to lie without any repercussions.

Why was Timothy Loehman permitted to lie and get away with it?

If you want this sort of action to no longer be automatic you have to insist that the police be truthful in all cases or face repercussions.

Video is starting to make that happen in some cases (Bland) but not all so far (Loehman). We have to have faith our justice system is always truthful and we do not have that.
Our "justice system" has not been truthful nor has it been about true "justice" for years and years. This is on both sides, not just the police.

Until you admit that the "justice system" is filled (again on BOTH SIDES) with those who spin/slay the truth and has become totally based on "he who tells the best story wins" you will be punching against air.

Always railing only about one part of one side just makes one look like a partisan loon and shuts down the ears of anyone who doesn't have such a myopic view of life in the world today.
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