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Yes, we do. I've posted extensively on that, providing a lot of historical facts and info.
What makes you think the 14th amendment is being misinterpreted from it's original meaning? I don't recall coming across any of your posts that lays this out... Nor have I read anything personally published by John Bingham outlining his intentions for the 14th amendment to only cover people born in America of American parents. The defeated Confederates ****** and moaned about the 14th amendment just like the Neo-Confederates are doing today...
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What makes you think the 14th amendment is being misinterpreted from it's original meaning? I don't recall coming across any of your posts that lays this out... Nor have I read anything personally published by John Bingham outlining his intentions for the 14th amendment to only cover people born in America of American parents. The defeated Confederates ****** and moaned about the 14th amendment just like the noe-confederates are doing today...
You'll never get what you are asking from InformedConsent. The 14th Amendment is correctly interpreted to establish birthright citizenship.
Recognizing that citizenship for freed slaves was an object of the 14th, requiring an "American parent" for birthright citizenship would not work: slaves were born to people who were not considered citizens at law when slaves were born. You are right to point at Confederate opposition in considering the meaning of the 14th. The 14th was crafted to avoid efforts by ex-Confederates to undermine the citizenship of freed slaves.
All persons born in the US & subject to US jurisdiction are US citizens. People who are present in the United States, other than diplomats, are subject to US jurisdiction.
The intention of the 14th Amendment is quite clear. There are plenty of sources from the late 19th century citing exactly the same thing. And it has never been changed. It's only been fairly recently misinterpreted, and quite egregiously so.
The necessity of passing The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, further demonstrates that merely being born in the U.S. is insufficient to acquire birthright citizenship.
The entire reason for the 14th amendment is long gone. There is no child of a slave alive any longer.
I don't like the proposal. The illegal alien parent(s) and the child have to go back together. The child is a dependent minor and has the foreign citizenship of the illegal alien parents even if we wrongly assume the child is also a US citizen, and they have to go where their parents go at least until they reach the age of majority 18.
The illegal alien parents are not or should not be given time to find someone to adopt or take legal custody of the child before deportation.
You have high hopes. To expect the judicial branch to change what they've been doing for many years is putting your hopes in the wrong basket.. And no one alive knows how it was "intended". You weren't alive back then...
are you claiming the 14th was NOT written expressly for the purpose of recognizing ex slaves as US citizens?
cite your sources.
are you claiming the 14th was NOT written expressly for the purpose of recognizing ex slaves as US citizens?
cite your sources.
Not only that in 1868 to 1870s very few immigrants and almost entirely NW European at that or illegals or just people entering in general were entering the US.
Today we receive more legal and illegal immigrants every 2 years or so than came during the almost 200 year colonial era.
are you claiming the 14th was NOT written expressly for the purpose of recognizing ex slaves as US citizens?
cite your sources.
The 14th amendment was written to prevent racist whites from preventing people born on US soil the right to be a us citizen. We had major issues with racist whites in the 1800s and we seem to have a similar issue today.. This is pretty easy to understand...
The 14th amendment was written to prevent racist whites from preventing people born on US soil the right to be a us citizen. We had major issues with racist whites in the 1800s and we seem to have a similar issue today.. This is pretty easy to understand...
So almost all of the world that doesn't acknowledge birthright citizenship today "racist whites"? The point is the 14th wasn't intended for mass illegal immigrants.
So almost all of the world that doesn't acknowledge birthright citizenship today "racist whites"? The point is the 14th wasn't intended for mass illegal immigrants.
My post was to the point and very specific. I said exactly what I meant so don't try and put words in my mouth. I'm talking about the 14th amendment to the US constitution.
My post was to the point and very specific. I said exactly what I meant so don't try and put words in my mouth. I'm talking about the 14th amendment to the US constitution.
Yep you said it, but you said it was still a problem today. So is ending birthright citizenship "white racism" or not?
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