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Old 10-11-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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Feminism is supposedly about women having the same rights as men.

For that to be a valid point / issue, all of the following would have to be true :

* Men have rights which women don't have
* Those rights are rights which women rightfully ought to have
* The number / weight of those rights added up would have to be significantly greater than that of rights which women have which men don't have which men rightfully ought to have

But all of those things are not true.

Or are they? I've never heard a convincing argument that they are.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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Feminism in US is a first-world problem, like being served coffee without enough cream on it.

What is disturbing about these Feminists is how they are always silent when it comes to the abuse of women under Sharia Law.

In many cases they outright support groups that are Anti-women. Hillary's comments that; we need to empathize with the Taliban, or the Democrat Party's support of groups like the fascist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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Feminism in US is a first-world problem, like being served coffee without enough cream on it.

What is disturbing about these Feminists is how they are always silent when it comes to the abuse of women under Sharia Law.

In many cases they outright support groups that are Anti-women. Hillary's comments that; we need to empathize with the Taliban, or the Democrat Party's support of groups like the fascist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
What is ALSO disturbing that at the height of NOW their leaders could NOT be heard from during the days of Bill Clinton when his "sex" stories were front page news.

Then we heard from them ALL the time during the Clarence Thomas Senate hearings and they supported Anita hill.

Their party affiliations power was MORE important then the women involved.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Feminism is supposedly about women having the same rights as men.

For that to be a valid point / issue, all of the following would have to be true :

* Men have rights which women don't have
* Those rights are rights which women rightfully ought to have
* The number / weight of those rights added up would have to be significantly greater than that of rights which women have which men don't have which men rightfully ought to have

But all of those things are not true.

Or are they? I've never heard a convincing argument that they are.
Where is feminism in our society?

I keep hearing the term thrown about especially on these message boards but no one will clarify just what they are speaking of. Can you name active feminist organizations in the major media and what their platform and specific issues are?
IMO our society has achieved equal rights and opportunities for women and minorities as the foremothers set out to do.
I do think we still need groups to advocate for women's issues such as reproductive rights, breast cancer awareness, domestic violence. As well issues that face girls and young women concerning things like education and body image issues.
Not to say there should not be groups to advocate for men's issues as well.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Where is feminism in our society?

I keep hearing the term thrown about especially on these message boards but no one will clarify just what they are speaking of. Can you name active feminist organizations in the major media and what their platform and specific issues are?
IMO our society has achieved equal rights and opportunities for women and minorities as the foremothers set out to do.
I do think we still need groups to advocate for women's issues such as reproductive rights, breast cancer awareness, domestic violence. As well issues that face girls and young women concerning things like education and body image issues.
Not to say there should not be groups to advocate for men's issues as well.
Reproductive rights, breast cancer, domestic violence, they already get plenty of attention. Women already get education. Body image, well that's their own responsibility.

Women already get way more than their fair share of attention in many things. Yet they still crave for more. Even children don't demand that much attention.

Maybe it's time for feminists to say thank you to men for creating civilization, pack their bags, and go home. And men really need to stop worshipping women. Women are nothing special.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:04 AM
 
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The point is political power, specifically the perks that come with it if you are a politician or a movement leader.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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What is ALSO disturbing that at the height of NOW their leaders could NOT be heard from during the days of Bill Clinton when his "sex" stories were front page news.

Then we heard from them ALL the time during the Clarence Thomas Senate hearings and they supported Anita hill.

Their party affiliations power was MORE important then the women involved.
What did we hear from NOW during the Clarence Thomas Senate hearings. What about the IWF?
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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Feminism has had a negative effect on everyone. It has hurt women and men, to varying degrees. Reason being the feminist movement never was nothing more than a communist movement in disguise. That is how communists gain power. They align themselves with and claim to fight for an "oppressed" group but really it's just a power move. They want to gain control of everything including your mind and oppress everyone for there own benefit.

I don't respect feminism or feminist because there leaders always have been and always will be communist radicals and there followers are just brainwashed sheep. It has never been about women's rights. I support women's rights so naturally I hate feminism which is a lie that seeks to take everyone's rights.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Third-wave feminism is simply people who perceive themselves as and/or who want to convince other women they're victims. We have equality now, there is no need for this sudden rise of new, often angry feminism.

- The gender pay gap has been debunked
- The "5 in 1" college rape stats have been debunked
- Women outnumber men in college
- Girls get higher grades than boys throughout school
- Young women earn more than their male counterparts
- Birth control and abortion are widely available
- There are lots of resources available to aid abused or struggling women

There is never going to be a perfect balance between the sexes. There's always going to be things that affect women more than men, but on the other hand men suffer negatively as well but don't have well funded and organized groups fighting on their behalf.

- Men make up 90% of workplace deaths
- Men make up 75% of homeless people
- Men receive harsher sentences than women for the same crime
- Prostate cancer kills at almost the same rate as breast cancer, but it receives half the funding
- Men are not treated equally in divorce or child custody

There's things that suck about being a man and those that suck about being a woman. The difference is there isn't a huge movement trying to convince men they're victims and oppressed.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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Feminism in US is a first-world problem, like being served coffee without enough cream on it.

What is disturbing about these Feminists is how they are always silent when it comes to the abuse of women under Sharia Law.

In many cases they outright support groups that are Anti-women. Hillary's comments that; we need to empathize with the Taliban, or the Democrat Party's support of groups like the fascist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
What feminists exactly do you think should take on Sharia Law and the Islamic nation?

You do realize there are groups of feminists trying to make a difference in Sharia law and its oppression against women, right?

What anti-women groups are supported by what feminist group?
Hillary is not the voice of feminism.
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