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You could have paid the penalties and roll the dice. What's your state? Why aren't they helping you and yours out as ACA encourages state's coming up with their own plan and receiving federal block grants.
Back in 2003, not recently, I have been employed recently.
The refusal to pass ANY fixes to it are causing this.
Realistically there is only two things that can fix this. Repeal it in it's entirety and that would include allowing the insurance companies to drop people that got insurance through this law. -or- Start heavily fining people that are not buying insurance, that would include asset seizures, garnishing wages etc.
Politicians on either side of the aisle that support either of these solutions stand up and say aye. This is a huge mess that is going to get worse before it gets better, there is no easy fix especially when you consider the politics involved.
Except if you are young and get cancer or need an operation or get into an accident. My 23 yr old son needed emergency appendectomy surgery -- at a cost of about $10,000. Fortunately, he was covered due to the ACA.
So here’s what you need to understand. The Affordable Care Act isn't magic, it produces losers as well as winners. But it's not black magic either, turning everyone into a loser. What the Act does is in effect to increase the burden on fortunate people, the healthy and wealthy, to lift some burdens on the less fortunate: people with chronic illnesses or other preexisting conditions, low-income workers.
As a result, 20 million more people have health insurance than pre-ACA.
I think pre-ACA, some insurance companies already covered children up to age 26. Google for it.
Plus if you don't have health insurance and can't pay, you get it free. Lots of teaching hospitals will take care of you regardless of insurance.
Even at non teaching hospital, poor people pay nothing. My husband shared a semi private room with a homeless when he was ill. No difference in treatment.
Here's the real scoop. The government now has you by the proverbial balls.
This is how it's going to work. The government now has control over your well being.
If you can just vote for democrat, they can tweak it and make it work (they are the ones that screwed it up originally)
If you can jusr vote for republican, they will repeal it and replace it (when they have the opportunity to repeal it, they don't then make up some bs reason and ask for your vote next cycle for same thing)
The point is, so long as politicians are in control, it will never get fixed. It's an election year rally cry.
Absolutely correct. We think Bloomberg was over the top with control with his 'health' mandates, wait until these start gaining momentum as they continue to roll out on a national basis. They have - see EPA, ACA, HUD rules.
No doubt that much of the American public brings much, if not the vast majority of disease, upon itself. Still, it is not good for a free society to vest this much and growing, control in a central government.
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Here's the real scoop. The government now has you by the proverbial balls.
This is how it's going to work. The government now has control over your well being.
If you can just vote for democrat, they can tweak it and make it work (they are the ones that screwed it up originally)
If you can jusr vote for republican, they will repeal it and replace it (when they have the opportunity to repeal it, they don't then make up some bs reason and ask for your vote next cycle for same thing)
The point is, so long as politicians are in control, it will never get fixed. It's an election year rally cry.
Over time Obama and his police state will be revealed for what they are. The attempt to take over the USA and make it more like the vision he had during his youth in a Muslim country. He was the trojan horse and controlled the public policy by a combination of pretty words and lies. Every day I pray that Trump wins and some authenticity, anger and verve live again in the white house. He's an American, loud, brash, open to a good fight and sometimes inappropriate and boisterous.
I travel to Canada whose people I have grown to really care about. They are polite, strong and resilient qualities which American's possess as well...but they are really really quiet. Coming back on the Ferry there was a guy struggling with a door and he was shouting and swearing....Ah I thought....good to be back in America.
DT is scary. Most good men sometimes need to defend ****...and they are scary when they do it. It's a rough world out there. Sometimes you need a monster sometimes ya need a gentleman. He's both...Better than H and B Clinton who are now and always will be sleaze.
I think pre-ACA, some insurance companies already covered children up to age 26. Google for it.
Plus if you don't have health insurance and can't pay, you get it free. Lots of teaching hospitals will take care of you regardless of insurance.
Even at non teaching hospital, poor people pay nothing. My husband shared a semi private room with a homeless when he was ill. No difference in treatment.
Primarily those would have been Employer offered insurance plans with added on perks to satisfy union demands or entice new hires with degrees and skillsets required. They would have had requirements that the children would remain totally dependant proven through some illness or active enrollment in a college or university degree program.
Individual middle income purchasers would not likely have chosen to "afford" that additional perk unless in the top quartile of earners.
Right, and that is what is so dishonest about the argument constantly being parroted by the left.
"Premiums were already skyrocketing long before Obamacare"
BS
They were increasing but not anywhere near what we have been experiencing since Obamacare was illegally pushed onto all of us.
The old "skyrocketing" was going from $200/month to $225/month now it is just ridiculous and out of control.
Are you an employee? Guessing you are as 85% of the population gets their health insurance this way.
We are self employed, I can tell you what you post might be what you paid as an employee.
But unless you owned a business and were buying for your staff what you posted couldn't be more wrong.
Our rate were rising mid double digits yearly prior to the ACA act.
Of course it doesn't help we are in a state with minimal options. We were stuck in a group through the chamber because 2 had minimal pre existing conditions (seasonal allergies!) and we couldn't get coverage anywhere else.
Each state has its own offerings.
If one is an employee, you have no idea what was really going on prior to the ACA act.
Health insurance isn't something an employee can make a general statement and expect it to apply to every state, every business, every situation across the country. Employees have no idea what the businesses who they work for what they go through when insurance shopping for offerings. Its a huge commitment and one the business doesn't take lightly.
Inform yourself and read the benefits of the ACA.
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This is a huge mess that is going to get worse before it gets better, there is no easy fix especially when you consider the politics involved.
