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Old 03-10-2008, 02:17 PM
 
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The other poster - in Canada, acknowledges the waiting times there - even for a surgery.

What say you to that?
I will just repost a link...

Waiting Times For Care? Try Looking At The U.S. - Nurses, Doctors Say It's Time To Debunk The Myths

Here you can find out that waiting times in USA are no better, and that this is a myth.

For uninsured, waiting time is "to wait until you die"

Even insurers admit US system is not timely. Read it.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I will just repost a link...

Here you can find out that waiting times in USA are no better, and that this is a myth.

For uninsured, waiting time is "to wait until you die"
Lets see: Canadian woman - broken leg - can't get surgery for months. Come to US - gets surgery next day

Canadian parliment member: Can't get Heart procedure for months - almost dies because of it

Poster here - Canadian - notes that their son had to wait over 11 months for a surgery

Such as NEVER BEEN THE CASE IN THE UNITED STATES.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:27 PM
 
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Greatday and Katiana:

I think I need to explain a little further, my son surgery is a "Preventive" surgery, the specialist have to convinced us to let him preform the operation, the 1 year wait time is to see if the condition go away by it self first, we asked for it. It's a very minor operation but we did not want our son go go through it if he doesn't have too.
The specialist opinion was he doesn't have to do it, but it is better if he do it.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:27 PM
 
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Lets see: Canadian woman - broken leg - can't get surgery for months. Come to US - gets surgery next day

Canadian parliment member: Can't get Heart procedure for months - almost dies because of it

Poster here - Canadian - notes that their son had to wait over 11 months for a surgery

Such as NEVER BEEN THE CASE IN THE UNITED STATES.
The Doctor Will See You—In Three Months

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The Commonwealth study did find one area where the U.S. was first by a wide margin: 51% of sick Americans surveyed did not visit a doctor, get a needed test, or fill a prescription within the past two years because of cost.
"

This is where USA is first...
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Greatday and Katiana:

I think I need to explain a little further, my son surgery is a "Preventive" surgery, the specialist have to convinced us to let him preform the operation, the 1 year wait time is to see if the condition go away by it self first, we asked for it. It's a very minor operation but we did not want our son go go through it if he doesn't have too.
The specialist opinion was he doesn't have to do it, but it is better if he do it.
Well, that makes more sense. I work in a pediatrician's office, most parents are very eager for their kids to get the care they need.

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The Doctor Will See You—In Three Months

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The Commonwealth study did find one area where the U.S. was first by a wide margin: 51% of sick Americans surveyed did not visit a doctor, get a needed test, or fill a prescription within the past two years because of cost.
"

This is where USA is first...
I worked in the immunization program for a local health dept. for years. There have been many studies done on unimmunized and under-immunized kids in the US. Most parents cited "cost" as one reason their kids weren't fully immunized, even when insurance covered immunizations! One reason, I think, for this is that most people feel cost is an acceptable excuse, better than "I didn't want to do it".
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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Greatday and Katiana:

I think I need to explain a little further, my son surgery is a "Preventive" surgery, the specialist have to convinced us to let him preform the operation, the 1 year wait time is to see if the condition go away by it self first, we asked for it. It's a very minor operation but we did not want our son go go through it if he doesn't have too.
The specialist opinion was he doesn't have to do it, but it is better if he do it.
Your son would not get a "preventive" surgery in the US if he is not insured, and would likely be turned down even if he was insured until it became a much bigger problem.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The Doctor Will See You—In Three Months

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The Commonwealth study did find one area where the U.S. was first by a wide margin: 51% of sick Americans surveyed did not visit a doctor, get a needed test, or fill a prescription within the past two years because of cost. This is where USA is first...
Can you explain away the Canadian examples I provided?

And, lets see: Generic medicatons - becoming more and more available - $4.00 in some locales -

Kids Vaccinations: most areas they are readily avaliable for free if one cannot afford it. Same is true for adults.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Your son would not get a "preventive" surgery in the US if he is not insured, and would likely be turned down even if he was insured until it became a much bigger problem.
Don't be so sure. I am a pediatric nurse, and I disagree, depending, of course, on the nature of the surgery.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Your son would not get a "preventive" surgery in the US if he is not insured, and would likely be turned down even if he was insured until it became a much bigger problem.
Neither is true

Here we call it "elective" surgery.

If someone can get a boob job, a kid can get a "preventative" procedure
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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