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Old 11-16-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Yeah what t0103e said. jobs will return by guv getting the F out of the way.
It's true.

Once we allow slavery again, it will be cheaper to make stuff here than in China and Mexico. America will be Great Again.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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You do realize that when federal money that's earmarked for infrastructure actually gets used for infrastructure, it creates tens of thousands of jobs virtually overnight, this is one of the great benefits of not having a president who owes everyone under the sun, there's a reason soros and people like him are acting like babies and stamping their feet, because they know that they can't do their 'buying and selling' for the next 4 years. Trump is not going to let federal money get wasted, there will be plenty of cash on hand to actually rebuild america, and in turn, that's going to create plenty of jobs.
There was plenty of Cash put out in the Stimulus program for Infrastructure it was set for disbursement over a number of years, but we know that the Republican aims to try and cause failure to the program, resulted in many finding ways to spend money without actually engaging the projects as planned.
I know for a fact, with some programs Jindal, did all he could to understaffed it and try and impose criterion that constricted it, denied acceptance of any category of support funding that he could... And then he resulted to leave the state more than a Billion$ in DEBT. That's the result of what Republican system engaged in trying to fulfill their pledge to defeat President Obama.

Now, that Republican have a Republican in Office, they will become less obstructionist, so that may help get things done, but it won't be anything that could not have been done Under President Obama, except for the fact, Republican spent the past 8 yrs fighting to oppose and convoluted everything. So, we can't automatically assume Trump to be some Genius, its more a matter of him having a cooperative congress.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump has made some pretty outlandish claims that really lack details, how does he bring jobs back from Mexico and China.


Infrastructure has always been a great idea but is the Freedom Caucus and others going to allow increased spending with the current deficit.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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If he did that, prices would go up pretty dramatically. Doing business here costs so much more than other countries due to the regulatory burdens and the risks involved in hiring workers here (lots of legal issues to deal with when hiring someone or firing them), etc.

Scrap all the economic burdens we have and then jobs will come back naturally.
Won't prices also go up when his 35% tariff on imports from China and Mexico goes into effect?
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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There was plenty of Cash put out in the Stimulus program for Infrastructure it was set for disbursement over a number of years, but we know that the Republican aims to try and cause failure to the program, resulted in many finding ways to spend money without actually engaging the projects as planned.
I know for a fact, with some programs Jindal, did all he could to understaffed it and try and impose criterion that constricted it, denied acceptance of any category of support funding that he could... And then he resulted to leave the state more than a Billion$ in DEBT. That's the result of what Republican system engaged in trying to fulfill their pledge to defeat President Obama.

Now, that Republican have a Republican in Office, they will become less obstructionist, so that may help get things done, but it won't be anything that could not have been done Under President Obama, except for the fact, Republican spent the past 8 yrs fighting to oppose and convoluted everything. So, we can't automatically assume Trump to be some Genius, its more a matter of him having a cooperative congress.
I'm not so sure, republicans may see those jobs being done by unions, which is something they hate more than Hillary, but Trump doesn't. Although I will assume Trump to be a genius if he gets term limits passed.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:46 PM
 
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It's true.

Once we allow slavery again, it will be cheaper to make stuff here than in China and Mexico. America will be Great Again.
We already have a system of "indentured servitude", because Minimum Wage is no more than the basic amount it would cost to house and feed a slave,with substandard housing and substandard food.
Anything else a person wants, they become indentured unto some financial institution or merchandiser or medical facility or practitioner. If it was not for public assistance programs, some could not even utilize the minimum wage as its not enough to afford shelter and food.

The system not does not enslave simply by skin color, if one is a member of "The Poor", they are already "indentured", and this includes some minorities, some poor whites, some dire poor whites and blacks, male and female. This does not even consider the nature of the Elderly. Then if they have over $2K, they have a big issue if they need Medicaid. But by the time they pay their Medicare premium, prescription and co-pay or gap insurance, they are relegated to poor quality food and if there was not Senior Citizen Section 8 for some Senior Complexes, they would be basically homeless. Because many do not receive enough Social Security to meet the demands. Therefore, they are relegated to the basic's of sustaining themselves, with no uplift or means to address "quality of life" concerns.

Go to poor white or minority poor areas and you find Store Names, that you won't find in the Middle and Upper Class Neighborhoods, and they are inundated with "Family Dollar", "Dollar General" and a host of other Dollar Stores and Wal Marts. Just to give them THE ILLUSION that they have purchasing power, the result of such, is they end up "re-buying the same things over and over and over, because it such poor quality for the cheap price, they get something with shiny plastic, or laminated particle board, or plastic with a fake granite look, or some molded plastic fiber cast item, or some cheap tin pots which may have some low grade alloy mixed in. They can rarely afford "quality durable goods".

By the time they consider transportation, they are done!!! "debt" is certain to sustain itself for the long term.

America's problem is the wealthy got addicted to pursuing 3000%+ profit margins, when the real truth is, America was built by people earning 30-40-50-60% profit margins, and they were able to pay people a living wage to meet the standards of living quality. Once the wealthy got addicted to 3000%+ profit, they were again hooked on slavery except they found slaves on foreign soil under governments that would allow their people to be used cheaply as slave wage labor, and in those places, the people earned just enough to pay for food and shelter. America's addiction to Slavery is why we have such a mess on many levels in this country today, because the system was built based on a design of using slave labor, indentured servitude wage which was no more than paying white people the amount it cost them to house and feed a slave. Now, that is the amount paid to "The Poor" and the wealthy maybe spend 1-5% of their 3000% profit to pay such low wages. Ask yourself, why does any CEO make 300+ times more than the person actually doing the work? CEO's function as The New Plantation System Owners Group. Ivy League University has been teaching the wealthy how to keep the wealthy and pay as little for labor since the days of slavery, Their whole program is about how to keep the wealth among themselves. They've used the same model of "Indenturing The Poor" for over 200+ yrs. They won't easily abandon such a economic system that has worked for them over 2 Centuries.

There was a time when Stocks were based on Quarterly Earning which was based on ACTUAL SALES AND PRODUCTION, but by the time people figured out how to scam it, we had the Crash of 1929, and the stock game has been cycled and cycled and is unrecognizable as to why the stock market was created in the first place. Today, it is nothing but a Gambling Casino for the Wealthy to play Monopoly as if its a real life board game.

We are the ones who need to awaken as people, it has nothing to do with who is President, it has more to do with people waking up, and kicking Congress in the Butt..... Congress sanctioned for decades the exodus of Industry, because Congress is controlled by the Wealthy, Everyone is a Lobbyist either before or after and often during their term in office.
We have very very very few who come out of Congress not being wealthy. Ask the question? how does one make Base salary $174,000/year and supposedly any holding are in a blind trust, and by the time they come out of Congressional Office, they have 5-10 or more Million Dollars?

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Old 11-16-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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I'm not so sure, republicans may see those jobs being done by unions, which is something they hate more than Hillary, but Trump doesn't. Although I will assume Trump to be a genius if he gets term limits passed.
I am all for term limits.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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The best thing Trump can say and do in regard to bringing back jobs would say something like below

"It's time to bring jobs back to the United States and it's going start right now as I am bringing my companies located out of the country back home and putting Americans to work"
Hey, I've got a bridge to sell you. It's in Brooklyn. Cheap!


^fits into a Tweet
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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Yeah what t0103e said. jobs will return by guv getting the F out of the way.
I hope you're right. I fear you're wrong. Deregulation of the airlines didn't create a job bonanza, as far as I'm aware.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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Won't prices also go up when his 35% tariff on imports from China and Mexico goes into effect?
No. That's silly.

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