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Why are you asking me this question? I have not absolved Obama of any lies or mistruths. You are changing the topic, utilizing the "whataboutisms" to obfuscate and create misdirection (look over here! Not here!).
The thread topic isn't "Obama never told a lie! Trump tells lies!". No, it's a comparison.
And while it might not feel great to say "my guy lies less", you really do need to look at the amount of lies Trump tells and the degree to which he lies and makes up things with impunity. Obama was certainly not a perfect leader - he made mistakes, some major. But is he a compulsive liar?
The scorecards answer this - they are literally inverses of one another...or, in other words:
Trump lies as often as Obama was found to tell the truth (a lot);
Trump tells the truth about as often as Obama lies (not that much)
Nuance does matter in real life. I'd rather have someone in power that lies less than one who lies more.
Does the lie not matter?
If every morning a president says he had pancakes when he had eggs is that worse than the president who makes a big campaign promise but then does t he exact opposite? (Just a general point)
After the Times published a list of Trump's lies this summer, some of his supporters demanded the publication compare Trump to other presidents. They opted to start with the most recent former president.
Trump's documented lies in 10 months: 103
Obama's documented lies in 8 years: 18
Wow really?
You can keep your doctor!
You can keep your plan!
Your family will save $2500 a year under ACA!
There will be a million shovel ready jobs!
The $8T deficit is unpatriotic!
That's five just off the top of my head!!! You honestly believe Obama lied just 18 times in 8 years?
And from the NYT???
Wow, The craziness in here is now officially off the charts.
If every morning a president says he had pancakes when he had eggs is that worse than the president who makes a big campaign promise but then does t he exact opposite? (Just a general point)
Of course it matters.
But Trump's lies have not been small, either. Nor have those large lies been infrequent.
Last edited by HockeyMac18; 12-15-2017 at 05:02 PM..
Why are you asking me this question? I have not absolved Obama of any lies or mistruths. You are changing the topic, utilizing the "whataboutisms" to obfuscate and create misdirection (look over here! Not here!).
No, I am not. You classified Obama's 3,000% reduction in premium price statement as just an "incorrect projection" instead of the outright lie it was.
For example, explain to us all what a 3,000% reduction of a $5,000 price would be.
You see, Obama absolutely depended on the sheer stupidity of his supporters. /SMH
After the Times published a list of Trump's lies this summer, some of his supporters demanded the publication compare Trump to other presidents. They opted to start with the most recent former president.
Trump's documented lies in 10 months: 103
Obama's documented lies in 8 years: 18
The NY Times is lying about Obama having only 18 lies. I am not shocked.
Really funny, POTUS, Staff and Cabinet, along with some of the GOP are now using the Bill Clinton defense. No longer attacking the issue. They are now attacking the prosecutor.
So POTUS is dirty and so are members of staff and Cabinet.
So the DOJ has come out and said that they did not authorize those leaked emails.
POTUS must have someone inside doing his dirty work. Maybe one of Giuliani's boys from the NY office again.
POTUS lying away all day.
But didn't the DOJ release those emails?
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