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Old 11-20-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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More of the "It's is the other guys fault.

Bernie is a registered Independent.

Why didn't he RUN AS ONE?

I am amazed at how so many dems expected the dem party to support someone who has been an Ind for YEARS and thinks the dem party will support him, (especially against "The anointed one"), when he decides to switch JUST to run as a dem.

Did you really thin k the dem party would back him over Hillary?

I have heard of being naive but, you guys REALLY take the cake!
When people apply to be a candidate for major political party, they agree to terms and conditions of that party.
Some of those conditions are things like, not sabotaging the eventual nominee and campaigning for that nominee.
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Old 11-20-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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When people apply to be a candidate for major political party, they agree to terms and conditions of that party.
Some of those conditions are things like, not sabotaging the eventual nominee and campaigning for that nominee.
There is no such agreement.
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Old 11-20-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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The intention of SS is to insure low income people have a retirement package which they may not do on their own. What you are proposing is taxing higher income people more leaving them with less money to invest for their own retirement or spend as they wish.

Why is the answer always higher taxes?
The answer isnt always higher taxes. Taxes for the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex and wars can be reduced for example. But I dont shed any tears for the donor class chipping in with the same SS tax rate as everyone else to make sure seniors and disabled people can live a decent life in America. We did it with Medicare, and now is the time to do it with SS. To cut SS further in order to protect the donor class is not something most Americans support.

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We have been doing that for 60 years, are inner city communities better or worse?
America has the weakest social safety net of any industrialized country and the worst social problems and highest teenage pregnancies. The more Darwinian the society gets, the worse the outcomes.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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Need we remind you that Hillary won the popular vote by over a million. You have no mandate. You may have won, but you have no mandate
If you promise not to me remind me about that I will promise not remind you about the decimation of the Democratic party at all levels of government over the last 8 years.


Here is an example of why your party is failing, I'm from PA so I know what's going on here as you should.

Senate leadership unchanged, Yudichak says Farnese
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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America has the weakest social safety net of any industrialized country and the worst social problems and highest teenage pregnancies. The more Darwinian the society gets, the worse the outcomes.
So what you are saying is we throw more money at Obamphone lady so she can have a better phone?
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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So what you are saying is we throw more money at Obamphone lady so she can have a better phone?
This was a program that was started well before Obama.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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I will say this, Republicans have 2-4 years to get it right otherwise expect a leftist change guy to win in 2020. We got lucky the Dems nominated Hillary.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:53 PM
 
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This was a program that was started well before Obama.
Yes it goes back many years, it's use for cell phones and subsequent fraud exploded under Obama. If I recall correctly there was estimates half the phones they were giving out were fraudulent.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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I will say this, Republicans have 2-4 years to get it right otherwise expect a leftist change guy to win in 2020. We got lucky the Dems nominated Hillary.
I concur but I would also suggest they only need to be moderately successful. The Democrats pushed an over the top liberal agenda in 09 and 10 and I doubt the Republicans will make the same mistake. They need to concentrate on the economy and fixing Obamacare. If they can accomplish that they will be good to go. The economy should not be difficult, Obamacare is a can of worms.
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Old 11-20-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Yes it goes back many years, it's use for cell phones and subsequent fraud exploded under Obama. If I recall correctly there was estimates half the phones they were giving out were fraudulent.
That is bad but not nearly as bad as fraudulent wars.
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