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Old 12-16-2016, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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When it comes to a known liar they make it easy.
In that case you can't really can't believe anyone.
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Old 12-16-2016, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Even if they are right; the cannot get past the fact that all of this did not have to happen. Hillary put herself in this mess; she did not use proper government websites. It was one mistake after another and now they need a scape goat (that also happened to be the candidate that beat her).

Obama wants to retaliate against Russia when he should have curbed Hillary's use of the unofficial sever.
Cool story, and it would be even cooler if this had something to do with her server.
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Old 12-16-2016, 06:24 PM
 
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In that case you can't really can't believe anyone.
Very few lie under oath and get away with it.
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Old 12-16-2016, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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This whole thing:
Looks like the resident tool.
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Old 12-17-2016, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Any rigging of an election is important, on the domestic level Gerrymandering and voter ID's come to mind. But you bring up an interesting point, there were attempts around the nation to exclude certain voters because they believed there was illegal voting but when it comes to a foreign power tilting our election they have been silent.


I am glad you can interpret what Trump meant, many did not take it the same way.

And that is because we don't know who did the hacking
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:19 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Default The only logical conclusion......

The only logical conclusion one can draw from all of these stories is " at this point who really knows what happened".
To the CIA and FBI as well as all the echo chamber politicians: PUT UP OR SHUT UP before your yapping gets us into a infrastructure crippling cyber war or worse.

If there's solid PROOF that the Russian government was responsible and trying to manipulate our election process (something the U.S. has done for years to others btw) then let's see it and then deal with it.

Until then, it'll only be seen as a bunch of whiny losers who just can't understand why the queen wasn't automatically coronated as they expected.
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Old 12-17-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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And that is because we don't know who did the hacking
Yes we do. It's only you deniers who are clueless.
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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The information released was apparently all true, but the Democrats wanted to keep it hidden.

Last edited by Spartacus713; 12-17-2016 at 11:32 AM..
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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At this point, a full investigation is going to need to be performed by someone other than the Democrats or the Obama administration, who clearly appear to be orchestrating these histrionics for the purpose of shifting responsibility away from themselves for the enormous electoral losses they have suffered in November and over the last six years, and also for the purpose of trying to improperly manipulate members of the electoral college into switching their votes.

The latter actions appear to be an act of election tampering by the Democrats that is going on right now, even as we speak. So, suffice it to say, the Democrats and Barack Obama have a serious conflict of interest here and certainly cannot be trusted to investigate this matter themselves.
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The information released was apparently all tue, but the Democrats wanted to keep it hidden.
Of course they did. nobody wants anybody else to see their dirty underwear and everybody has some stashed in a basket somewhere. Especially Donald Trump and his campaign. They keep an oversized basket of their stinking pile.

Thing is, perception say's, that someone else's dirty underwear is always worse than your own. Fact also is, that dirty underwear is not illegal. This is an important point. Especially in political campaigns where everyone wrestles in the mud.
On the other hand, Hacking the election process is highly illegal and undermines the entire democratic process. Comparing the two is like comparing apples to machine guns.
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