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Old 01-01-2017, 06:26 AM
 
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So, my wish didn't come true. Make no mistake, my main issue is with both absolutely corrupt political parties. There is no doubt that Hillary was the chosen one regardless of what the people wanted, and the DNC made every attempt to shove that two time loser down everyone's throat. True, Sanders did not get the nomination, the real prize was Hillary not winning the presidency. You can also bet your bottom dollar there were many qualified democrats in the know, stayed off the ballot, knowing full well the fix was in for Hillary.
I would bet there were many qualified dems that were not allowed on that ballot. I've seen it at local level elections - the party or chair doesn't like you? You're not getting their support. Its pathetic.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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The elephant in the room is working-class =/= white suburban/rural. The left doesn't have contempt for the working-class. The left has contempt for those who continually vote against their own interests out of bigotry and stupidity.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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The elephant in the room is working-class =/= white suburban/rural. The left doesn't have contempt for the working-class. The left has contempt for those who continually vote against their own interests out of bigotry and stupidity.
Then why did they elect Obama?
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:17 AM
 
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Then why did they elect Obama?
To be fair, many of those who voted Obama also voted for Trump this year. Just sayin'.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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Then why did they elect Obama?
They didn't. There's very little to support the notion that Trump flipped a substantial number of Obama voters. Hillary was a terrible candidate and many Obama voters stayed home. That was the difference in this election.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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They didn't. There's very little to support the notion that Trump flipped a substantial number of Obama voters. Hillary was a terrible candidate and many Obama voters stayed home. That was the difference in this election.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e29f1967199c
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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They didn't. There's very little to support the notion that Trump flipped a substantial number of Obama voters. Hillary was a terrible candidate and many Obama voters stayed home. That was the difference in this election.
I have to agree. It wasn't that Trump was a good choice, it was that Hillary was even worse.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:27 AM
 
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To be fair, many of those who voted Obama also voted for Trump this year. Just sayin'.
I don't think many did.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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They didn't. There's very little to support the notion that Trump flipped a substantial number of Obama voters. Hillary was a terrible candidate and many Obama voters stayed home. That was the difference in this election.
I don't know where this idea comes from. I never made it.

What was said was that the left has contempt for those who vote against their best interests. I find that an odd notion when they voted for Obama.

One gets a pass the first time. Candidate Obama said all the right things. I had hoped he would do them. End the wars..Not start new ones. Prosecute the bankers. Stop the bailing out of Wall Street. Stop the revolving door to lobbyists.

He did none of those things. The only interests he served were Wall Street's and the war machine.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:33 AM
 
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It's a silly poll that they even admit has a huge margin of error.
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