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Old 09-18-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Fear mongering.
Nope they keep on putting it out. They are telling you they are going to do it.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Since 1933, and the socialist revolution, when St. Roosevelt scammed the American people into embracing theft-by-government, the USA has been on an economic decline. Not only was all the lawful money (gold coin) stolen, but it was a criminal offense for "free" Americans to own constitutional money (until the 1970s).

Already, Congress is paying off old creditors with new investor funds (which is a crime in the private sector - see Bernie Madoff). Remember, when Congress borrows MORE than it pays in debt service, that's evidence of inevitable collapse.

Furthermore, pursuant to 12 USC Sec. 411, the only legal way to authorize MORE dollar bills (needed to pay the usury) is to have DEFICITS. And to pay the ever rising interest requires (drum roll) MORE DEFICITS.

We're heading for a collapse, no matter which partisan party is in power. The question that remains - do we Americans want to comply with the Declaration of Independence, and demand that governments are limited to securing the Creator endowed rights of the people, or do we want THE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC?

Do you prefer endowed rights to life, liberty, absolute ownership of private property, inherent powers, privileges and immunities that do not require consent, -or- do you prefer to be a subject serf in the glorious collective which grants (or withholds) the taxable privilege to live, work, travel, own, trade, marry or own a dog? All under the benevolent enforcement of the totalitarian police state.


Oh, and if you thought FICA was “insurance” for you, oops.
In two important cases, Helvering v. Davis and Flemming v. Nestor, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights to Social Security benefits. Benefits are at the sole discretion of Congress.


FICA / Socialist InSecurity was a "tax and bribe" scam from day one. It was a means to enact a new tax in the midst of the Great Depression. It will be a grand day when it is finally abolished.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Kudlow answered a question from Becky Quick on CNBC on entitlements.

That's the problem...believing anything said on CNBC.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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2,000 a year.

Every 20 year old should have that beat into their head that this is what it takes to retire a millionaire.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Kudlow answered a question from Becky Quick on CNBC on entitlements.

He said the GOP will fix them.

Just like Rubio did when the GOP controlled all 3 parts of the Government.

So the GOP playbook, cut taxes for the top 1% and then do not pay for anything. Increase spending to force even greater deficits.

Create HUGE deficits and start telling all the followers oh do not worry we are fixing it all.

We have already seen them fix the ACA by trying to kill it.

No matter what the GOP needs to lose control of the House and Senate.
Yeah I know. Why can't they be like Obama who gave us our 20 trillion dollar debt.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Since 1933, and the socialist revolution, when St. Roosevelt scammed the American people into embracing theft-by-government, the USA has been on an economic decline. Not only was all the lawful money (gold coin) stolen, but it was a criminal offense for "free" Americans to own constitutional money (until the 1970s).

Already, Congress is paying off old creditors with new investor funds (which is a crime in the private sector - see Bernie Madoff). Remember, when Congress borrows MORE than it pays in debt service, that's evidence of inevitable collapse.

Furthermore, pursuant to 12 USC Sec. 411, the only legal way to authorize MORE dollar bills (needed to pay the usury) is to have DEFICITS. And to pay the ever rising interest requires (drum roll) MORE DEFICITS.

We're heading for a collapse, no matter which partisan party is in power. The question that remains - do we Americans want to comply with the Declaration of Independence, and demand that governments are limited to securing the Creator endowed rights of the people, or do we want THE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC?

Do you prefer endowed rights to life, liberty, absolute ownership of private property, inherent powers, privileges and immunities that do not require consent, -or- do you prefer to be a subject serf in the glorious collective which grants (or withholds) the taxable privilege to live, work, travel, own, trade, marry or own a dog? All under the benevolent enforcement of the totalitarian police state.
Can't rep you anymore. Good post.

You do, however, know the libs answer to your question, right?
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Since 1933, and the socialist revolution, when St. Roosevelt scammed the American people into embracing theft-by-government, the USA has been on an economic decline. Not only was all the lawful money (gold coin) stolen, but it was a criminal offense for "free" Americans to own constitutional money (until the 1970s).

Already, Congress is paying off old creditors with new investor funds (which is a crime in the private sector - see Bernie Madoff). Remember, when Congress borrows MORE than it pays in debt service, that's evidence of inevitable collapse.

Furthermore, pursuant to 12 USC Sec. 411, the only legal way to authorize MORE dollar bills (needed to pay the usury) is to have DEFICITS. And to pay the ever rising interest requires (drum roll) MORE DEFICITS.

We're heading for a collapse, no matter which partisan party is in power. The question that remains - do we Americans want to comply with the Declaration of Independence, and demand that governments are limited to securing the Creator endowed rights of the people, or do we want THE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC?

Do you prefer endowed rights to life, liberty, absolute ownership of private property, inherent powers, privileges and immunities that do not require consent, -or- do you prefer to be a subject serf in the glorious collective which grants (or withholds) the taxable privilege to live, work, travel, own, trade, marry or own a dog? All under the benevolent enforcement of the totalitarian police state.
Great piece of propaganda.

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Old 09-18-2018, 07:47 PM
 
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Fear mongering.
This was Paul Ryan's announced plan.

The Republicans stood in opposition to these programs when they were first created, and have ever since wanted to destroy them.

They have cut taxes to create extreme deficits, that was step one, accomplished under Ryan. Step two is to argue for a balanced budget, and this will be an attempt to crush social safety net programs.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:47 PM
 
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Then they lose the house, the senate and the presidency in 2020 and forever thereafter. I say go for it.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:48 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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2,000 a year.

Every 20 year old should have that beat into their head that this is what it takes to retire a millionaire.
Oh stop. You know they'd rather pay that to the government, have it wasted on nonsense, and in the end get not much of anything back... if SS is even solvent by then.
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