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"Obviously the devil is in the details but reform does not equal ‘take away,’" said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense. "And clearly there needs to be some changes to get these programs on fiscally sound footing."
AshLee Strong, Ryan’s spokeswoman, told PolitiFact that "no one has ever proposed taking away these programs. This kind of hyperbole is what keeps our important entitlement programs on an unsustainable trajectory."
"The House already passed a bill that would have curbed Medicaid, but it died in the Senate. And the Senate -- where Republicans have just a 51-49 edge in a chamber that requires 60 votes for most legislative business -- is expected to be a graveyard for legislation to rein in Medicare and Social Security."
"We had a missed opportunity during the Obama years, when you had divided government, like you did with Reagan and Tip O'Neill, to address the long-term unsustainability of some of our most popular programs, who currently don't meet the demographics of the country in the future," he said.
Our ruling
Wyden said, "Republicans in Congress are plotting to take away Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security."
Some key Republicans, including Ryan, have long argued in favor of overhauling entitlement programs such as these by reducing the amount of money spent on them. However, no Republican proposal has been made to "take away" any of the three programs cited in the tweet. In addition, Wyden glosses over just how far away from passage even a more modest overhaul would be."
The old line and scare tactics by the Democrats. Vote for us or those mean old Republicans are going to kill all the puppies too!
When you have a lunatic running the asylum anything is possible.
DT will sign anything that remotely hints at enough popular support in whatever "key" areas that will get him reelected in 2020.
Mr. Paul Ryan (himself a beneficiary of SS payments to deceased parent) is leaving office, so won't be around to deal with any fall out.
Indeed *if* GOP could manage to pull something off before mid-term elections it goes either way for that party. Seats they were going to lose will still be lost; but OTOH it could fire up enough of their rabid "cut government spending" base to help republicans in national and or local races.
Don't forget Mr. Ryan and GOP are going to force a vote soon on making the recent tax cuts permanent. Again revenue must come from somewhere, and previous projections about deficits caused by DT/GOP tax plan were based upon parts sun setting in 2020 (or whenever). If that changes then we're into a whole new ball game in terms of federal budget.
All this is going on as every day more and more "Boomers" reach retirement age and file for benefits. That wave is just getting started and will continue for another ten to nearly twenty years as the last cohort (those born late 1950's through about 1965) reach 62.
When you have a lunatic running the asylum anything is possible.
DT will sign anything that remotely hints at enough popular support in whatever "key" areas that will get him reelected in 2020.
Mr. Paul Ryan (himself a beneficiary of SS payments to deceased parent) is leaving office, so won't be around to deal with any fall out.
Indeed *if* GOP could manage to pull something off before mid-term elections it goes either way for that party. Seats they were going to lose will still be lost; but OTOH it could fire up enough of their rabid "cut government spending" base to help republicans in national and or local races.
Don't forget Mr. Ryan and GOP are going to force a vote soon on making the recent tax cuts permanent. Again revenue must come from somewhere, and previous projections about deficits caused by DT/GOP tax plan were based upon parts sun setting in 2020 (or whenever). If that changes then we're into a whole new ball game in terms of federal budget.
All this is going on as every day more and more "Boomers" reach retirement age and file for benefits. That wave is just getting started and will continue for another ten to nearly twenty years as the last cohort (those born late 1950's through about 1965) reach 62.
First of all, revenue increases with increased economic activity. Moreover, instead of simply trying to raise more and more revenue, most of which is wasted, the budget should be cut significantly.
"Obviously the devil is in the details but reform does not equal ‘take away,’" said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense. "And clearly there needs to be some changes to get these programs on fiscally sound footing."
AshLee Strong, Ryan’s spokeswoman, told PolitiFact that "no one has ever proposed taking away these programs. This kind of hyperbole is what keeps our important entitlement programs on an unsustainable trajectory."
"The House already passed a bill that would have curbed Medicaid, but it died in the Senate. And the Senate -- where Republicans have just a 51-49 edge in a chamber that requires 60 votes for most legislative business -- is expected to be a graveyard for legislation to rein in Medicare and Social Security."
"We had a missed opportunity during the Obama years, when you had divided government, like you did with Reagan and Tip O'Neill, to address the long-term unsustainability of some of our most popular programs, who currently don't meet the demographics of the country in the future," he said.
Our ruling
Wyden said, "Republicans in Congress are plotting to take away Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security."
Some key Republicans, including Ryan, have long argued in favor of overhauling entitlement programs such as these by reducing the amount of money spent on them. However, no Republican proposal has been made to "take away" any of the three programs cited in the tweet. In addition, Wyden glosses over just how far away from passage even a more modest overhaul would be."
There are good reasons for the above.
Those who would be hit hardest from any reduction in Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are going to be those in "fly over" and or solid GOP states/ areas. The liberal/democratic/progressive states of northeast and west coast (CA, WA, etc...) not only have systems in place to provide aid where federal funding falls short, but tax bases they can turn to for revenue if required.
True, things won't be lavish and there are limits to the latter, but never the less there you are.
If DT, Mr. Paul Ryan et al could craft a way much like their tax plan that punishes liberal/democrat wealthy states by entitlement cuts, there wouldn't be any problems. But they cannot and that is where rubber meets road.
"Obviously the devil is in the details but reform does not equal ‘take away,’" said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense. "And clearly there needs to be some changes to get these programs on fiscally sound footing."
AshLee Strong, Ryan’s spokeswoman, told PolitiFact that "no one has ever proposed taking away these programs. This kind of hyperbole is what keeps our important entitlement programs on an unsustainable trajectory."
"The House already passed a bill that would have curbed Medicaid, but it died in the Senate. And the Senate -- where Republicans have just a 51-49 edge in a chamber that requires 60 votes for most legislative business -- is expected to be a graveyard for legislation to rein in Medicare and Social Security."
"We had a missed opportunity during the Obama years, when you had divided government, like you did with Reagan and Tip O'Neill, to address the long-term unsustainability of some of our most popular programs, who currently don't meet the demographics of the country in the future," he said.
Our ruling
Wyden said, "Republicans in Congress are plotting to take away Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security."
Some key Republicans, including Ryan, have long argued in favor of overhauling entitlement programs such as these by reducing the amount of money spent on them. However, no Republican proposal has been made to "take away" any of the three programs cited in the tweet. In addition, Wyden glosses over just how far away from passage even a more modest overhaul would be."
Yes they have talked about taking them away. They have used terms like fixing and curbing for longer then I have been alive. The GOP wants to kill SS and Medicare.
They can't if we vote them out. Straight (D) ticket.
Even Obama said in 2009 that reforms would need to be made:
"In 2009, even Obama emphasized the need to reform these entitlement programs, saying we had “kicked this can down the road,” further noting that “we are now at the end of the road” and “not in a position to kick it any further." (Spoiler alert: If a tomato can football hall of fame existed, Obama would hold the record for longest field goal.)"
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