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Old 01-26-2017, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Felony rioting charges against journalists covering the inauguration day protests in D.C. Accounts are that many of the 230 people arrested were simply unlucky to be part of an indiscriminate roundup of everyone in the area.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/b...T.nav=top-news

Deranged tyrant in the house.
Indiscriminate roundup? You mean like burning cars and smashing store windows? They are deemed unlucky to be caught? Most were caught on tape....
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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Tyranny of smaller states over larger states...now that is funny when you think about it. Coastal states have been running over smaller states for 200 years. The EC just evens the political playing field.

Again quite funny...if liberals want a larger voice in the EC get out the vote in the smaller states. Wait....liberals overlooked the smaller states and look at what it cost them. The Presidential election.

No election is about the money....its about the ability to get the votes.

Isn't a lot of Seattle area freeways and bridges already have a toll on them?

I would love to keep the money I paid in taxes right here in my community/county instead of paying for a trillion dollar tunnel under Seattle.

You and other liberals/Hillary, who overlooking those voters in those red waste lands and look at the results, it cost them the election.

Quit whining and get over it.
Didn't answer the question. At what point does the small number of voters controlling a massively larger number of voters becomes so disproportionate that it becomes a huge issue? Would four people in Wyoming having control over ten million be acceptable? Talking about what happened 200 years ago ignores that a lot has changed since the horse and buggy. A small number of voters controlling a larger number of voters is indeed tyranny of the minority.

Not sure how any rural area could consider themselves paying for Seattle bridges and roads, considering the state is largely funded by King County. Washington state disproportionately funds other states and King County disproportionately funds other counties within Washington state. When the number of voters in blue states continues to increase and the number of voters in red states continues to decrease, expect this to become an increasingly contentious and vocal issue. In the meantime, anything that allows King County to keep their dollars within the county forcing other counties and states to fund themselves is only fitting.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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So you think just because states like California and New York with their large liberal leaning population should be the only states that are necessary to elect the president?....While states with lesser population should just shut up?
33 states voted for Trump....and their voice shouldn't be heard. Guess what they were and according to the Constitution of the United States their voice over rides your voice.

Get over it and move on.
One person, one vote would be WAY more fair.

How is this not obvious? You're saying votes should count differently depending on what state you're in.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:58 PM
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Indiscriminate roundup? You mean like burning cars and smashing store windows? They are deemed unlucky to be caught? Most were caught on tape....
I'm sorry for using a word that you don't know! Indiscriminate means done at random or without careful judgment. That means even journalists who were simply covering the event and other people who never touched a window or car were arrested.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Didn't answer the question. At what point does the small number of voters controlling a massively larger number of voters becomes so disproportionate that it becomes a huge issue? Would four people in Wyoming having control over ten million be acceptable? Talking about what happened 200 years ago ignores that a lot has changed since the horse and buggy. A small number of voters controlling a larger number of voters is indeed tyranny of the minority.

Not sure how any rural area could consider themselves paying for Seattle bridges and roads, considering the state is largely funded by King County. Washington state disproportionately funds other states and King County disproportionately funds other counties within Washington state. When the number of voters in blue states continues to increase and the number of voters in red states continues to decrease, expect this to become an increasingly contentious and vocal issue. In the meantime, anything that allows King County to keep their dollars within the county forcing other counties and states to fund themselves is only fitting.
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One person, one vote would be WAY more fair.

How is this not obvious? You're saying votes should count differently depending on what state you're in.

Quit whining the election is over according to the United States Constitution, Trump won...don't like how the results were determined....partition your two worthless Senators to induce a Constitution amendment to change the the 12th amendment.

THE CONSTITUTION Article II
Section 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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I'm sorry for using a word that you don't know! Indiscriminate means done at random or without careful judgment. That means even journalists who were simply covering the event and other people who never touched a window or car were arrested.
I doubt journalist were arrested..detained for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe, and released. Can you give me both a link to these supposed arrest and the circumstance of why it happened?
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:06 PM
 
Location: 98166
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I doubt journalist were arrested..detained for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe, and released. Can you give me both a link to these supposed arrest and the circumstance of why it happened?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/b...tion.html?_r=0

Yeah, let's just "get over it"
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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The EC was created to protect slavery, so every four years I am going to bring this up and yes even when Obama won.

You should read Article 1, Section 9, Claus 8:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

Currently we know that Trump is getting 2 million a year from China and since he won't disclose his financials and he won't put his holdings in a blind trust we have no idea how much money he has coming in from foreign States. We do have his son saying, "“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008"

Russia hacked and worked to get Trump elected, you're naive at best if you think he will put America first.

Personally, I am on the fence whether he should be impeached. On one hand, Pence probably wouldn't blow up the world, on the other hand, one week into the administration and it's obvious that Trump and team do not understand how to be a president, so it's limiting the damage he can do, which is still considerable.

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia | Time.com
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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The EC was created to protect slavery, so every four years I am going to bring this up and yes even when Obama won.

You should read Article 1, Section 9, Claus 8:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

Currently we know that Trump is getting 2 million a year from China and since he won't disclose his financials and he won't put his holdings in a blind trust we have no idea how much money he has coming in from foreign States. We do have his son saying, "“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008"

Russia hacked and worked to get Trump elected, you're naive at best if you think he will put America first.

Personally, I am on the fence whether he should be impeached. On one hand, Pence probably wouldn't blow up the world, on the other hand, one week into the administration and it's obvious that Trump and team do not understand how to be a president, so it's limiting the damage he can do, which is still considerable.

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia | Time.com
You want whine with your cheeze?
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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The New York Times who have shown in the pass a extreme hostile against Trump should be taken seriously? Another hit piece at its finest that you have taken hook line and stinker.
Fake news you have fallen for...LOL
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