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I did some work for Webb in 2016. He is stand up guy, a patriot, finds a good comfortable middle ground that I think works for a majority of Americans in his policy stances.
Yes but that is not where the Dems stand these days.
If he'd been the Democratic nominee, Republicans would've ripped him as a left wing loon.
But now that they've won this election, they're spewing nonsense about how they've always liked him.
If he'd had a chance to get anywhere in the Dem primaries, become the Dem candidate, I would have voted for him over Trump. But he was basically ignored by the DNC, as they had it in the bag for Hillary.
This thread got me thinking more about Webb and what a potential run for him would look like. I was researching his positions and came across this quote for an 2004 WSJ op-ed:
"The greatest realignment in modern politics would take place rather quickly if the right national leader found a way to bring the Scots-Irish and African Americans to the same table, and so to redefine a formula that has consciously set them apart for the past two centuries."
But these passages stood out to me, sorry for the length, but I think it's worth a read.
"The second impact was the Immigration Act of 1965, which has dramatically changed the racial and ethnic makeup of the country, while keeping in place a set of diversity policies, and education, and employment, that were designed under the Thirteenth Amendment, to remove the badges of slavery for African-Americans. This is a policy I have always supported and continue to support, the African-American affirmative action programs.
This policy, designed to remove the badges of slavery for African-Americans, was gradually expanded to include anyone who did not happen to be white, despite vast cultural and economic differences among whites themselves. More than 60 percent of immigrants from China and India have college degrees, while less than 20 percent of whites from areas such as Appalachia do. That to be white in the law, and in so much of our misinformed debate, is to be specially advantaged, privileged as a slogan goes, while being a minority is to be in the law disadvantaged.
Frankly, if you’re a white family living in Clay County, Kentucky, the poorest county in America, which the poverty rate is about 40 percent, and whose population is 94 percent white, wouldn’t this concept kind of tick you off? Wouldn’t you see it as reverse discrimination? Wouldn’t you hope that someone in a position of political influence might also see this and agree with you?
Part of it, finally, is that diversity programs coupled with the international focus of our major educational institutions have created a superstructure, partially global that on the surface seems to be inclusive, but in reality is the reverse of inclusive. Every racial and ethnic group has wildly successful people at the very top and desperately poor people at the bottom. Using vague labels about race, ethnicity, might satisfy the quotas of government programs, but they have very little to do with reality. Whether it’s blacks in West Baltimore, who have been ignored and left behind, or whites in the hollows of West Virginia."
"In October 2004 I wrote an article for The Wall Street Journal about the Scotch-Irish, Bill kind of alluded to this in his introduction, calling this group, white working people, the Republican Party’s secret weapon. In the last paragraph of that article I wrote, “The decline in public education and the outsourcing of jobs has hit this culture hard. Diversity programs designed to assist minorities have had an unequal impact on white ethnic groups, and particularly these whose roots are in a poverty stricken South. Their sons and daughters serve in large numbers in a war whose validity is increasingly coming into question. In fact, the greatest realignment in modern politics could take place rather quickly if the right national leader found a way to bring the Scotch-Irish and African-Americans to the same table, and so to redefine a formula that has consciously set them apart for the last two centuries.”
"I believed this was impossible, as I said, I grew up in an admirer Franklin D. Roosevelt. I ran for the Senate as a Democrat, concerned about our society’s drift toward a permanent aristocracy, and believing that the Democratic Party could be rebuilt along the lines of inclusion, bringing white working people back within its ranks. Instead, unfortunately, after the election of Barack Obama, who could have been that figure, I will say, the reverse happened."
I like him. But I'm an Independent. He's a stand up man, military service, strong, liberal in some views but conservative in others.
The rank & file of the Democrats would never nominate someone like him to run for President, though. That's a shame. But their choice.
Both parties have moved to extreme positions, for the bulk of their members. However, I will say that Hillary Clinton was not progressive or on the extreme end of left. She used to be a Republican and is moderate. But of course when a candidate runs on a ticket, they pledge to follow the ideology and policies stated in that party's platform, I think. That includes Trump. Which is why Trump is so pro-life, now. I don't for a minute think he's really pro-life or anti-abortion. I would bet money he's paid for more than a few abortions in his day. He's never expressed pro-life views before, that I know of. But that's part of the Republican Party Platform.
Hillary "moderate".....lol
Well she was caught saying that she has public positions and private positions on issues.....must be what you meant.
I never understood why Conservative Republicans decided to hate on black people - particularly ALL black people who they depict as monkeys, lowlifes and ghetto trash.
Insult people long enough, and they'll stop voting for you.
Google "Peggy Joseph and Wizard of Oz".
You're likely too self-possessed to do so, but go ahead...give it a shot.
(She's my hero).
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A large portion of registered Democrats actually are sane, moderate people and do work for a living. They care about the country and the future. Webb would have been a great candidate to represent these people, and would have picked up a good number of Republicans that ended up voting for Trump. Sadly, the far left extremist nuts of the Democrat party have largely taken over. They insisted on an avowed socialist loon, while the corporate Dems insisted on Clinton. This effectively shut out Webb, or any other moderate, non-establishment candidate, no matter how qualified.
I hope he tries again in 2020.
So basically you want a Democrat who agrees with Clinton on every issue except guns.
If he'd had a chance to get anywhere in the Dem primaries, become the Dem candidate, I would have voted for him over Trump. But he was basically ignored by the DNC, as they had it in the bag for Hillary.
I don't buy it.
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I wouldn't say I ever LIKED him.....feared him, perhaps. And even had a bit of respect for him.
Most fellow conservatives feel the same.
Nah. Not believable.
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Google "Peggy Joseph and Wizard of Oz".
You're likely too self-possessed to do so, but go ahead...give it a shot.
(She's my hero).
(blank stare)
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