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Old 02-01-2017, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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One can tell the Democratic Party is quite different today than in the past. The Bill Clinton years for example were much different. Even the early Obama years. Now Dems seem to be very far to the left.
When do you think this shift occurred and what caused it?


Looking at the behavior of the party during the election and also after Trump's election really makes me glad Hillary didn't win and that they don't have the House or Senate.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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They haven't been this bad since Republicans took away their slaves.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:06 PM
 
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One can tell the Democratic Party is quite different today than in the past. The Bill Clinton years for example were much different. Even the early Obama years. Now Dems seem to be very far to the left.
When do you think this shift occurred and what caused it?


Looking at the behavior of the party during the election and also after Trump's election really makes me glad Hillary didn't win and that they don't have the House or Senate.
If Hillary would have won she would have gone further left to stay in office in 2020. The way they are acting I'm so glad Hillary didn't win and it will be along time (until they get a grip) until I ever consider voting Democrat again.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I think what you are trying to say is when did the parties become as polarized as they are today. Today's GOP isn't Ronald Reagan's GOP.

It was mostly during the 2000s in the wake of 9/11, the Iraq War, and Bush's 2004 campaign that focused on gay marriage. Between 2000 and 2008, America became completely polarized politically along religious and cultural lines. Obama's eight years only made this worse. I really liked the Obama years but if there is one thing I would criticize him for is letting this happen under his watch. When Obama won in 2008 I expected him to unify the country like an FDR or a JFK, but instead we are more divided than ever and issues that we thought were settled, like racism, have reared their ugly head again.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:12 PM
 
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I think what you are trying to say is when did the parties become as polarized as they are today. Today's GOP isn't Ronald Reagan's GOP.

It was mostly during the 2000s in the wake of 9/11, the Iraq War, and Bush's 2004 campaign that focused on gay marriage. Between 2000 and 2008, America became completely polarized politically along religious and cultural lines. Obama's eight years only made this worse. I really liked the Obama years but if there is one thing I would criticize him for is letting this happen under his watch. When Obama won in 2008 I expected him to unify the country like an FDR or a JFK, but instead we are more divided than ever and issues that we thought were settled, like racism, have reared their ugly head again.
In 2010, Dems were warned that the people didn't like what was going on but the they ignored the people. Another warning came in 2012 and 2014 and they still ignored the people. R's acted like a bunch of wimps during that time and now R's are fighting back and the left isn't used to that. And we are witnessing the result of people who are so used to getting their way and they're screaming like children who never learned the meaning of no.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I think what you are trying to say is when did the parties become as polarized as they are today. Today's GOP isn't Ronald Reagan's GOP.

It was mostly during the 2000s in the wake of 9/11, the Iraq War, and Bush's 2004 campaign that focused on gay marriage. Between 2000 and 2008, America became completely polarized politically along religious and cultural lines. Obama's eight years only made this worse. I really liked the Obama years but if there is one thing I would criticize him for is letting this happen under his watch. When Obama won in 2008 I expected him to unify the country like an FDR or a JFK, but instead we are more divided than ever and issues that we thought were settled, like racism, have reared their ugly head again.
Yeah I remember Obama's famous speeches about there being no White America, Black America..just the United States of America.
Inspiring and uplifting speeches, but now we know that didn't happen.

I think a lot of it had to do with the Black Lives Matter stuff and the media constantly race baiting.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Heck, the democrats in the Clinton years were pretty conservative/republican in contrast.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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I think the more important question is, when did the Republican Party get so far right?
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It was Bill Clinton who signed into law the crime bill that included the three strikes policy resulting in a massive amount of black males being incarcerated. And Hillary justified it by saying certain people were super predators that needed to be taken to heel. Just one more reason I lost all respect for them.

The Democrats have gone off the charts in the opposite direction.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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One can tell the Democratic Party is quite different today than in the past. The Bill Clinton years for example were much different. Even the early Obama years. Now Dems seem to be very far to the left.
When do you think this shift occurred and what caused it?


Looking at the behavior of the party during the election and also after Trump's election really makes me glad Hillary didn't win and that they don't have the House or Senate.
You mean the democrats like KKK, Jim Crow and slave masters? They have always been radical.
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