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Old 02-02-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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These people should have access to their lawyers.
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Sounds like a good fake news story...CNN is that you?
I guess that was an imposter I saw on TV? Sure looked like Virginia's AG. How many links do you need? I guess anything that isn't reported by InfoWars or Breitbart will now be considered "fake news."

[url=http://wtop.com/virginia/2017/01/virginia-sues-trump-administration-over-immigration-order/]Virginia joins suit challenging Trump's immigration order | WTOP[/url]

[url]http://www.13newsnow.com/news/local/virginia/virginia-files-motion-to-intervene-in-case-filed-against-executive-order-on-immigration/395096139[/url]
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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8 USC 1182
Read it.
Then THINK about it.
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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At approximately 2:30 am Thursday morning the Huffington Post reported that the Commonwealth of Virginia asked a federal judge late Wednesday night to force President Donald Trump, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and top government officials to show why they shouldn’t be held in contempt for failing to obey a lawful court order.

The temporary restraining order issued Saturday night by U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema of the Eastern District of Virginia required Customs and Border Protection to allow attorneys access to legal permanent residents that CBP had detained at Dulles International Airport as a result of Trump’s executive order blocking people from seven Muslim-majority nations from traveling to the U.S. Saturday’s court order also forbade CBP from deporting any of the legal permanent residents ― also known as green-card holders ― detained at Dulles for seven days.

When federal judges rule against the government, any official implicated in the order, including the president, is supposed to obey ― even if they believe the court’s order is incorrect.

However, CBP did not obey the court’s order. Instead, it openly defied it. The border agency never let attorneys near the people it was detaining. Over the past few days, as many as 6 different members of Congress asked the CBP to follow the law which allows LEGAL permanent residents to be represented by an attorney in situations such as the one we've been watching unfold at airports across the country.

In addition to Trump and CBP, the Department of Homeland Security, DHS chief John Kelly, acting CBP Commissioner Kevin K. McAleenan, Dulles CBP head Wayne Biondi and eight unnamed CBP agents are defendants in the lawsuit. Their “conduct and refusal to account for their actions last weekend suggests disobedience” to the court’s order, Virginia charged in its brief.

TEXT OF CONTEMPT ORDER

If Trump ignores this court order as he has others, the US may end up on the brink of a Constitutional Crisis. We are a nation of laws and no one gets to pick and choose which ones to obey and which to ignore - not an illegal alien and not the President of the United States.
I'm wondering why they did not also file a Writ of Habeas Corpus, since one of the major complaints was that detainees were denied access to legal counsel.
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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He should cut their funding also.
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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At approximately 2:30 am Thursday morning the Huffington Post reported that the Commonwealth of Virginia asked a federal judge late Wednesday night to force President Donald Trump, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and top government officials to show why they shouldn’t be held in contempt for failing to obey a lawful court order.

The temporary restraining order issued Saturday night by U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema of the Eastern District of Virginia required Customs and Border Protection to allow attorneys access to legal permanent residents that CBP had detained at Dulles International Airport as a result of Trump’s executive order blocking people from seven Muslim-majority nations from traveling to the U.S. Saturday’s court order also forbade CBP from deporting any of the legal permanent residents ― also known as green-card holders ― detained at Dulles for seven days.

When federal judges rule against the government, any official implicated in the order, including the president, is supposed to obey ― even if they believe the court’s order is incorrect.

However, CBP did not obey the court’s order. Instead, it openly defied it. The border agency never let attorneys near the people it was detaining. Over the past few days, as many as 6 different members of Congress asked the CBP to follow the law which allows LEGAL permanent residents to be represented by an attorney in situations such as the one we've been watching unfold at airports across the country.

In addition to Trump and CBP, the Department of Homeland Security, DHS chief John Kelly, acting CBP Commissioner Kevin K. McAleenan, Dulles CBP head Wayne Biondi and eight unnamed CBP agents are defendants in the lawsuit. Their “conduct and refusal to account for their actions last weekend suggests disobedience” to the court’s order, Virginia charged in its brief.

TEXT OF CONTEMPT ORDER

If Trump ignores this court order as he has others, the US may end up on the brink of a Constitutional Crisis. We are a nation of laws and no one gets to pick and choose which ones to obey and which to ignore - not an illegal alien and not the President of the United States.
seems legitimate and completely real . It is amazing just how fast the alt right tries to define new as "fake" when they don't like it .

Shame on posters calling it fake news and lying in full public view .

shame on you indeed.
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:34 PM
 
Location: So California
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Huffington Post... arguably worse. Go figure.


Not arguably. Its a glorified blog
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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If Trump ignores this court order as he has others, the US may end up on the brink of a Constitutional Crisis. We are a nation of laws and no one gets to pick and choose which ones to obey and which to ignore - not an illegal alien and not the President of the United States.
It's coming, one way or another. We are not a dictatorship or an absolute monarchy. The sooner it happens, the better, because the longer this man is allowed to remain in office, the more irreparable damage he will do to the country.
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Not arguably. Its a glorified blog
and yet it accurately reported the actions of Virginia's AG...


seems to me the Huff was right on the money while the alt right frogs are huffing and puffing ....
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Old 02-02-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: United States
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Fake news, there is no contempt filed against trump.

From the OP's article



There’s no indication that the court is going to actually hold the president in contempt,” said Ben Feuer, chairman of the California Appellate Law Group and a former clerk on the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. “The people who are really at the center of this, who this is actually directed at, are the agents at Dulles airport involved in this.... Here’s what’s at stake: How’s the court going to force these officers or punish them?
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