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There is nothing illegal and unConstittuional about the "ban." If it was illegal and unConstitutional for Trump, then it was also for Obama. Where was this judge then, when Obama did the exact same thing?
Exact same thing? I don't think so.
The 2011 ban followed the discovery that 2 Iraqi refugees in Bowling Green were funneling funds to terrorists and one of them had previously engaged in warfare in Iraq.
This is the incident that the always calculated Kellyanne referred to as the Bowling Green Massacre, cept it was not. Best I can tell it was a pause to go back and take a closer look at Iraqi refugees who had been resettled.
The Trump ban did not follow an event and was not limited to just one country of interest.
I don't have a particular issue with the ban. It 's all about the knee jerk execution, instead of a 360 review by all agencies involved. When a POTUS sneezes, the entire admin gets covered in snot.
Or because he's in too big a frigging hurry to do it right. In any case, order vetting is done by the worker bees - the attorneys and the like. They are in place, being paid, and ready to work.
Or because democrats in congress keep doing anything within their power including not showing up to vote, to get his cabinet members in place. By this time in Obama's first term, he had pretty much everybody. The republicans in congress are mostly *******. The deomcrats play hardball while the republicans play wiffle ball. They are a disgrace for letting themselves get bullied around when they don't have to. Mcconnell and Ryan are spineless hacks who only serve themselves.
The White House released a statement criticizing the judge’s decision.
“The Supreme Court and Congress have made clear that the federal government can set priorities in enforcing our immigration laws—which is exactly what the President did when he announced commonsense policies to help fix our broken immigration system. Those policies are consistent with the laws passed by Congress and decisions of the Supreme Court, as well as five decades of precedent by presidents of both parties who have used their authority to set priorities in enforcing our immigration laws,” the statement reads.
No lawyer here, but the theory should be that even though we are 50 states there's no need to reinvent the wheel. If a question comes up in one state and is ruled on by a FEDERAL judge it applies on a National basis. Now because issues are never absolutely identical, there's nothing to prevent another Federal judge from ruling in a way that appears to be contradictory elsewhere so we end up with multiple case law. The Supreme Court becomes the final arbiter.
Because the language in the Washington order was "broader" than the other cases, it will take precedence until further judicial action.
Part of the problem seems to be that the executive order was not well drafted and grouped together parties of differing classes or standings. Portions of the order could well be found constitutional and stand for one class of individuals but not for another.
Not quite again no precedent over anything. We had what you are talking about in the 1800s and it was colossal failure.
Districts<Circuits<SCOTUS.
It is persuasive however. But nothing stops your local D.C. From saying otherwise.
What the court orders has nothing to do with it because they don't have jurisdiction over you. It why every state has their own D.C.
Then why do we have all these illegals in our country? Illegals and anyone who wants to invade our country are being treated like they are above the law. Maybe we need to start prosecuting those traitors who are protecting the lawbreakers.
Some companies helping with this lawsuit didn't look too good on the stock market today.
Accessory to the crime. aiding and abetting a criminal. Obstruction of justice. Hindering an investigation.
and since it is an invasion, it technically is treason, to the economic well being of the People that create this nation, knowing it is a privilege for them to be here as tourists.
Or because he's in too big a frigging hurry to do it right. In any case, order vetting is done by the worker bees - the attorneys and the like. They are in place, being paid, and ready to work.
Wrong. Let's look at reality:
"Two weeks in, Donald Trump has the smallest confirmed Cabinet in decades"
"Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced on Monday that Democrats were hoping to delay votes on President Donald Trump's Cabinet picks in protest of his Friday executive order barring people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the US."
He absolutely did. In fact, the list of countries, unmentioned in Trump's ban, are the countries that Obama listed in his. You need to educate yourself. You are uninformed.
Well, someone is uninformed.
The Obama Admin ban specifically targeted dual citizens with a passport from one of the 38 countries that participate in the bilateral Visa Waiver Program, who had travelled to/ from one or more of the 7 countries of concern since 2011.
The bilateral Visa Waiver Program was implemented by the Reagan Admin in 1986.
About 23 million people enter the US annually via the Visas Waiver Program.
For example a dual citizen of say Iraq and Malta who had travelled to one or more of the 7 countries of concern since 201- would not be permitted entry to the US under the Visa Waiver Program.
Why in the world should the ruling of a judge in Washington state, regardless if it's a federal judge, who argue the matter harms Washington state(love that one), impact the entire nation on halting this extra security check decision made at the highest level of gov?
I honestly don't know, but maybe because this isn't a Kingdom?
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